Sam Altman’s sister, Annie Altman, claims Sam has severely abused her

TW: Sexual assault, abuse, child abuse, suicidal ideation, severe mental illnesses/​trauma, graphic (sexual) langauge

This post aims to aggregate a collection of statements made by Annie Altman, Sam Altman’s (lesser-known) younger sister, in which Annie asserts that she has suffered various (severe) forms of abuse from Sam Altman throughout her life (as well as from her brother Jack Altman, though to a lesser extent.)

Annie states that the forms of abuse she’s endured include sexual, physical, emotional, verbal, financial, technological (shadowbanning), pharmacological (forced Zoloft), and psychological abuse.

I do not attempt to speak for Annie; rather, my goal is to provide an objective and unbiased aggregation of the claims Annie has made, as well as of relevant media surrounding this topic.

I have made this post because I think that it is valuable to be aware of the existence of the claims that Annie has made against Sam, given his strong influence over the development and alignment of increasingly powerful AI models. I have also made this post because I think that these claims are not covered well elsewhere (at least, at the time of this post’s writing.)

Disclaimer: I have tried my best to assemble all relevant information I could find related to this (extremely serious) topic, but this is likely not a complete compendium of information regarding the (claimed) abuse of Annie Altman by Sam Altman.

Disclaimer: I would like to note that this is my first post on LessWrong. I have tried my best to meet the writing standards of this website, and to incorporate the advice given in the New User Guide. I apologize in advance for any shortcomings in my writing, and am very much open to feedback and commentary.

Relevant excerpts from Annie’s social media accounts

c.f. Annie Altman’s:

Note: throughout these excerpts, I’ll underline and/​or bold sections I feel are particularly important or relevant.

From her X account

  1. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1635704398939832321

    1. “I’m not four years old with a 13 year old “brother” climbing into my bed non-consensually anymore. (You’re welcome for helping you figure out your sexuality.) I’ve finally accepted that you’ve always been and always will be more scared of me than I’ve been of you.”

      1. Note: The “brother” in question (obviously) being Sam Altman.

    2. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1709629089366348100

      1. “Aww you’re nervous I’m defending myself? Refusing to die with your secrets, refusing to allow you to harm more people? If only there was little sister with a bed you could uninvited crawl in, or sick 20-something sister you could withhold your dead dad’s money from, to cope.”

  2. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1568689744951005185

    1. “Sam and Jack, I know you remember my Torah portion was about Moses forgiving his brothers. “Forgive them father for they know not what they’ve done” Sexual, physical, emotional, verbal, financial, and technological abuse. Never forgotten.”

    2. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1708193951319306299

      1. “Thank you for the love and for calling I spade a spade. I experienced every single form of abuse with him—sexual, physical, verbal, psychology, pharmacological (forced Zoloft, also later told I’d receive money only if I went back on it), and technological (shadowbanning)

    3. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1459696444802142213

      1. “I experienced sexual, physical, emotional, verbal, financial, and technological abuse from my biological siblings, mostly Sam Altman and some from Jack Altman.”

  3. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1709978285424378027

    1. “{I experienced} Shadowbanning across all platforms except onlyfans and pornhub. Also had 6 months of hacking into almost all my accounts and wifi when I first started the podcast

    2. https://​​​​item?id=37785072, https://​​​​JOSourcing/​​status/​​1710390512455401888

      1. Some commenters on Hacker News claim that a post regarding Annie’s claims that Sam sexually assaulted her at age 4 has been being repeatedly removed.

  4. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1459696500540248068

    1. “I feel strongly that others have also been abused by these perpetrators. I’m seeking people to join me in pursuing legal justice, safety for others in the future, and group healing. Please message me with any information, you can remain however anonymous you feel safe.”

  5. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1709629659242242058

    1. “This tweet endorsed to come out of my drafts by our Dad

      He also said it was “poor foresight” for you to believe I would off myself before ~justice is served~

  6. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1640418558927863808

    1. (Jokingly) “{Sam’s ‘nuclear backpack’} may also hold our Dad and Grandma’s trusts {which} him {Sam} and my birth mother are still withholding from me, knowing I started sex work for survival because of being sick and broke with a millionaire “brother””

    2. A reply to Annie’s post: https://​​intelligencer/​article/​sam-altman-artificial-intelligence-openai-profile.html… I feel like you are misrepresenting things here. If the article is correct of course. “Sam offered to buy Annie a house.” Isn’t that a big financial help?”

      1. Annie’s replies:

        1. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1709978018364723500

          1. “There were other strings attached they made it feel like an unsafe place to actually heal from the experiences I had with him.”

        2. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1709977862252658703

          1. “The offer was after a year and half no contact {with Sam}, and {I} had started speaking up online. I had already started survival sex work. The offer was for the house to be connected with a lawyer, and the last time I had a Sam-lawyer connection I didn’t get to see my Dad’s will for a year.

  7. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1710039207878734139

    1. “I was too sick for “normal” standing jobs. Tendon and nerve pain, and ovarian cysts. “Pathetic” to you seems to mean something outside of your understanding”

  8. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1655474350777311233

    1. Annie states that (Sam’s) technological abuse (shadowbanning) has made it hard for her to make an income /​ financially support herself.

    2. She refers to Sam as her “first client” in her (current) sexual line of work.

    3. “{I have been} under the thumb of this deeply depressed human {Sam Altman}, dealing with his guilt about our dad dying much earlier than he needed to—because our dad was not given money while he was alive, even though he’d had heart issues, and was 67 - can you imagine being a fucking multimillionaire and not giving your dad—that’s for me to talk about in therapy”

    4. Context: Annie is (somewhat jokingly) talking about making shirts saying she survived Sam Altman’s shadowbanning. “The shirts—they’re gonna say ‘I survived Sam Altman’s shadowbanning.’ And it’s gonna be such a clusterfuck—because the longer that this has gone on—and it’s been 4 years now—I no longer care about sounding like a crazy person. There’s so much proof—go to my Instagram for “Hi Censorship” highlights. Also, the amount of friends I have had and tested things out with—and seen, when they share things, {versus} when I share things; sharing anything about the podcast...”

  9. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1649586084928704512

    1. “I got diagnosed with PCOS, and got walking boot for a third time in 8 years for the same tendinopathy, all in the first year of grieving my Dad.”

    2. “I had a history since childhood of OCD, anxiety, depression, IBS, disorder eating—all covers for PTSD. Also tonsillitis yay”

    3. “I got notified almost exactly a year after his death about my Dad leaving me money, so make a plan to stop working for 6 months and focus on my health.

    4. “I got notified almost exactly a year after his death about my Dad leaving me money, so make a plan to stop working for 6 months and focus on my health. I had started a podcast and had other art proects I could do sitting down!”

    5. After quitting my dispensary job, my relatives find a loophole to withhold said money. They knew the health conditions and my plan, and they’re millionaires. I sell some things, go back to an older job, and eventually ask (for the first time ever) my millionaire relatives for financial help and am essentially told to “work harder.” I got $100 for an ankle MRI copay, after much ‘discussion’”

    6. “I do two family therapy sessions and am professionally advised to stop doing family therapy sessions.”

    7. “I move back to Big Island so I can work trade for rent, be around community, and actually heal. I’m offered {by Sam} a diamond made from Dad’s ashes instead of money for rent or groceries. Dad just wanted cremation.”

    8. “I go {opt for} no contact with relatives.”

    9. “I start spicy work which ends up being way more therapeutic than anticipated, though definitely challenging.”

    10. “I end up moving to Maui. Unemployment comes through after identity theft, so I have a deposit {on?} a place to live.”

    11. “I have two years of remembering horrific things I’d buried and told myself I made up, and experience adult SAs that brought up even more memories.

  10. https://​​​​phuckfilosophy/​​status/​​1697712455013847372

      1. Note: this poem seems to be pretty clearly talking about Sam.

From her Instagram account

  1. https://​​​​p/​​CtetAsfpmhb/​​

    1. “If the multiverse is real, I’d love to meet the version of me who did run away to the circus at 5 years old after telling her birth mother about wanting to end this life thing and being touched by older siblings, and said “mother” decided to instead protect her sons and demand to receive therapy and chores only from her female child.

  2. https://​​​​p/​​CuXd3H0u0e3/​​

    1. “Yeah I was super sick...and houseless...and sucking “parts” for...{money?}...and so now—well, first of all, ’cause that was some outrageously good fuckery (abuse), and—now I’m un-fuck-with-able!”

  3. https://​​​​p/​​CtIzt-uudhr/​​

  4. https://​​​​p/​​Cpx3evHv1F0/​​

    1. “Reposting for you to read before you reach out about OpenAI and ChatGPT.

      I’m just at the light at the end of tunnel of four years of being sick and broke and shadowbanned. I’d do it again to go no contact and feel physically and emotionally safe for the first time in my life.

      Yes business life and personal life and different, and also “how you do anything is how you do everything.” Please vote with your dollars, your attention, and your truth.

      #truthcomesouteventually #trueshit #allhumansarehuman”

      1. Note: when Annie says “go no contact”, she’s referring to the decision she made to refuse Sam Altman’s offer to buy her a house (an offer which she Annie feels was not borne of graciousness but rather as a desire to exact greater control over and suppression of Annie (who had begun to speak out against Sam on the Internet)) and thus avoid contact with her family, a decision she upheld even when (according to her) she was dealing with extreme sickness, mental illness /​ anguish, shadowbanning, and poverty.

  5. https://​​​​stories/​​highlights/​​17865620213032124/​​

    1. Here, Annie provides a set of screen captures (in the form of an Instagram story called “Hi censorship”) showing instances she’s identified as shadowbanning /​ unusual activity surrounding various posts she’s made on social media.

  6. https://​​​​p/​​CxliM2oyXBY/​​

    1. “Victim mentality or survivor mentality? Did that happen “to you” or “for you”? (Note to watch out for spiritual bypassing and erasure of real experiences in your ~reflecting~)

      I survived Achilles and posterior tibial tendinopathy. I survived posterior tibial nerve pain that radiated to my ankle, knee, and pelvis. I survived PCOS and those particular ovarian cysts that got intense enough to warrant scans. I survived IBS and every single disordered eating game.

      I survived listening to my body fall apart as it told me the stories I had not yet been ready to hear the full depths of. I survived 18 months of nearly all-day PTSD flashbacks of childhood assaults.

      I survived my Dad’s will being withheld for over a year, and money he left me being withheld by millionaires relatives. I survived the grief of my decision to go no-contact with said relatives.

      I survived being shadowbanned across multiple accounts, while attempting to make a livable income online. I survived an in-person profession that was a plan Z last resort, and learned and was therapized by it.

      I survived every form of ab*sive behavior. I survived relatives telling and showing me I was “crazy” for pointing out said ab*se.

      I survived grieving my Dad and somehow got even closer with him, and yes forever grieving.

      I survived myself.

      #everyoneisgoingthroughsomething #allhumansarehuman #thehumannie #trueshit #truthcomesouteventually

  7. https://​​​​p/​​CxgtpcwvP4w/​​

    1. “Hello Internet. I’ve gotten myself into a very difficult position, as I’ve been unable to work as much as I’ve needed due to my mental health and physical health. I put myself in a financially risky position to pursue my one woman show and podcast, and then had unexpected costs with health and technical difficulties. I’m dealing with the consequences of my own decisions and I need help. My Venmo is @Annie-Altman if you’re able.

      In this calendar year I observed the one year anniversary of my dad’s death, discussed another mental health label to add to my collection, got diagnosed with PCOS (scans to rule out adrenal tumors, pelvic ultrasounds, blood tests), had IBS flare up again, had a long-term achilles injury flare up the longest I’ve experienced it, had almost all of my personal accounts have attempted or successful logins, had people logging on my wifi and other wifi issues (4 new modems, had excessive cell phone service issues, the pity-party list continues. I’m beyond my capacity of what I can handle alone. I—”

    2. #fbf to a silly and sad Annie, “putting herself in a position” to save other people who were harming her.

      I’ve since learned part of personal accountability can be noticing my own savior complex, and allowing someone else to experience the consequences of their decisions.

      Third sentence there ought to have read ‘My millionaire relatives are refusing to give me help, and are withholding money from my dead Dad that I quit a job because of, while sick and in paperwork process to receive what he left in my name.’”

  8. https://​​​​p/​​CxOgnm4yWHY/​​

    1. Almost all of my social media accounts have been/​are shadowbanned, and this is an unfortunate truth for many. OpenAI would be tagged here also if they had a account.

      It started for me before any swork {sex work} started. I don’t mean that this account would be at 100K or some set number. I do mean it makes no sense to be unable to pass 1K, with over 100 podcasts and other creations, and consistent posting.

      Old videos wil {sic} get reduced to something like 2 views on @instagram and @youtube , podcast rating get frequently deleted on @apple @applepodcasts , people will get automatically unfollowed, posts will be restricted in who sees them, and more.

      It’s been really demoralizing on a lot of levels, which is part of the purpose of shadowbanning. The other purpose of shadowbanning is direct repression of ways I can support myself with my art, like my @etsy and @patreon , or podcast ads for .”

From her Medium account

  1. Reclaiming my memories—published Nov 8, 2018

    1. “Two months ago I met with Joe K, the owner of Urban Exhale Hot Yoga, to discuss the podcast episode we were going to record together. (I have since recorded podcasts with four other teachers at the studio and am completely unsure how to express my gratitude to Joe — honestly perhaps less words about it?) While I would be the one asking Joe questions on the podcast, he had an important question for me. With all the casual profundity of a yoga teacher, Joe asked, “what is your earliest memory?

      Without pause for an inhale I responded, “probably a panic attack.” I feel like Joe did his best asana poker face, based on projecting my own insecurities and/​or the hyper-vigilant observance that comes with anxiety.

      I began having panic attacks at a young age. I felt the impending doom of death before I had any concept of death. (Do I really have any concept of death now, though? Does anyone??) I define panic attacks as feeling “too alive,” like diving off the deep end into awareness of existence without any proper scuba gear or knowledge of free diving. Panic attacks, I’ve learned, come like an ambulance flashing lights and blaring a siren indicating that my mind and my body are… experiencing a missed connection in terms of communication — they’re refusing to listen to each other. More accurately: my mind is disregarding the messages from my body, convinced she can think her way through feelings, and so my body goes into panic mode like she’s on strike.”

    2. Annie then basically proceeds to mention that “panic attack” doesn’t quite feel like her first memory, but doesn’t decisively settle on a “first memory.” She concludes the article: “TBD on the first memory of that history. Here’s to exploring.”

      1. This becomes relevant later on, as Annie ends up remembering an earlier memory than her panic attacks—Sam sexually assaulting her.

  2. Period lost, period found—published Feb 21, 2019

    1. Annie started taking Zoloft at age 13 to help with symptoms of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Anxiety, and Depression.

    2. Annie tapered herself off of Zoloft at age 22.

    3. Annie graduated from college with a major in Biopsychology, a minor and dance, and also completed all of the prerequisite courses for medical school.

    4. After graduation, Annie chose not to pursue a pre-med route, opting instead to focus on movement, writing, comedy, music, and food. She got certified as a yoga teacher, worked for an online CSA (community-supported agriculture) company, began writing more frequently, started slowly going to open mic nights and putting videos on YouTube, and began a podcast and this blog.

  3. 18 reasons I spent 18 years criticizing my appearance—published Mar 6, 2019

    1. Annie lists various reasons, including many related to mental illness and body image issues.

  4. An open letter to relatives—published Sep 22, 2020

    1. As I’ll get to later on, I’m pretty sure that Annie published this shortly after (as she claims):

      1. Her millionaire relatives (esp. Sam and her mother) exploited a loophole to screw her out of the money that her Dad left for her in his will

      2. Sam (through lawyers) told Annie she’d have to get back on Zoloft if she wanted the money

      3. Annie had (and still was having?) extremely intense, nearly all-day PTSD flashbacks of the sexual assault she experienced in her childhood from Sam Altman, plus other forms of assault from all members of her nuclear family (except her Dad, I think.)

      4. Annie had started publicly speaking out against Sam on social media, though this received surpisingly little attention/​audience, which Annie thinks is due to Sam shadowbanning her posts.

    2. In light of this, to me, this letter seems to be somewhat sarcastic. Annie is “thanking” her relatives in a way that carries subliminal criticisms.

    3. Example: “Thank you for strengthening my sense of self. I am where I am and doing what I’m doing in part because of each of you. My tenacity and gentleness to take care of myself has increased because of you. The lessons I’ve received from my relationships with you have shifted my perspectives beyond their limitations. Thank you for providing contrast.”—What I think Annie is referencing here is how her relatives screwed her out of her money and (esp. Sam) abused her for a very long time. To this, she had to adapt by developing better ways to take care of herself, and was also forced to move around in a state of relative financial poverty.

      1. As with the rest of the letter, Annie includes seemingly-upbeat, purposefully vague one-liners throughout the letter, such as “Thank you for providing me with contrast.” (The implied negative connotation isn’t too hard to infer.)

  5. An Open Letter To The EMDR Trauma Therapist Who Fired Me For Doing Sex Work—published Jun 7, 2021

    1. It seems Annie was trying to use EMDR to heal her PTSD, which, as she claims, resulted from having flashbacks to and stronger memories the abuse, e.g. sexual abuse from Sam, that she was subjected to during her childhood.

    2. It seems her therapist rejected her as a client on the basis of her position as a sex worker.

From her podcast

  1. 21. Podcastukkah #5: Feedback is feedback with Sam Altman, Max Altman, and Jack Altman—All Humans Are Human | Podcast on Spotify. - published Dec 7, 2018

    1. A relevant snippet begins around ~24:30.

      1. Context: “projection” is a recurring motif of discussion throughout the podcast episode.

      2. Annie: “This is where, well—I do believe that projecting can be deflecting and it can be another buzzword in a lot of ways, and also, as you brought up, it points to very intense feelings and very, as you brought up Max {Altman}, {with the} human psychology of things, of, in some ways, we’re wired to remember painful experiences so that we do learn from them, and so—to remember negativity, and to remember those things—”

      3. Sam {interjecting}: “More than that, I think one thing we’re particularly wired for, I don’t know why, is to not like hypocrisy...”

    2. Note: as reported in Elizabeth Weil’s nymag article, Sam (and Jack) refuse (Annie’s requests to) share a link to the podcast. Annie finds this unfair, seeing as how Sam had been willing to help his other siblings’ careers in quite major ways. Sam (and Jack) apparently cited that the podcast episode “did not align with their businesses” (c.f. nymag article) as the reason they refused to post the link.

Excerpts from “Sam Altman Is the Oppenheimer of Our Age”, by Elizabeth Weil (lizweil (@lizweil) /​ X (

  1. Annie does not exist in Sam’s public life. She was never going to be in the club. She was never going to be an Übermensch. She’s always been someone who felt the pain of the world. At age 5, she began waking up in the middle of the night, needing to take a bath to calm her anxiety. By 6, she thought about suicide, though she didn’t know the word.

  2. “When I visited Annie on Maui this summer, she told me stories that will resonate with anyone who has been the emo-artsy person in a businessy family, or who has felt profoundly hurt by experiences family members seem not to understand. Annie — her long dark hair braided, her voice low, measured, and intense — told me about visiting Sam in San Francisco in 2018. He had some friends over. One of them asked Annie to sing a song she’d written. She found her ukulele. She began. “Midway through, Sam gets up wordlessly and walks upstairs to his room,” she told me over a smoothie in Paia, a hippie town on Maui’s North Shore. “I’m like, Do I keep playing? Is he okay? What just happened?” The next day, she told him she was upset and asked him why he left. “And he was kind of like, ‘My stomach hurt,’ or ‘I was too drunk,’ or ‘too stoned, I needed to take a moment.’ And I was like, ‘Really? That moment? You couldn’t wait another 90 seconds?’” That same year, Jerry Altman died. He’d had his heart issues, along with a lot of stress, partly, Annie told me, from driving to Kansas City to nurse along his real-estate business. The Altmans’ parents had separated. Jerry kept working because he needed the money. After his death, Annie cracked. Her body fell apart. Her mental health fell apart. She’d always been the family’s pain sponge. She absorbed more than she could take now. Sam offered to help her with money for a while, then he stopped. In their email and text exchanges, his love — and leverage — is clear. He wants to encourage Annie to get on her feet. He wants to encourage her to get back on Zoloft, which she’d quit under the care of a psychiatrist because she hated how it made her feel. Among her various art projects, Annie makes a podcast called All Humans Are Human. The first Thanksgiving after their father’s death, all the brothers agreed to record an episode with her. Annie wanted to talk on air about the psychological phenomenon of projection: what we put on other people. The brothers steered the conversation into the idea of feedback — specifically, how to give feedback at work. After she posted the show online, Annie hoped her siblings, particularly Sam, would share it. He’d contributed to their brothers’ careers. Jack’s company, Lattice, had been through YC. “I was like, ‘You could just tweet the link. That would help. You don’t want to share your sister’s podcast that you came on?’” He did not. “Jack and Sam said it didn’t align with their businesses.”

  3. “In May 2020, she relocated to the Big Island of Hawaii. One day, shortly after she’d moved to a farm to do a live-work trade, she got an email from Sam asking for her address. He wanted to send her a memorial diamond he’d made out of some of their father’s ashes. “Picturing him sending a diamond of my dad’s ashes to the mailbox where it’s one of those rural places where there are all these open boxes for all these farms … It was so heavy and sad and angering, but it was also so hilarious and so ridiculous. So disconnected-feeling. Just the lack of fucks given.” Their father never asked to be a diamond. Annie’s mental health was fragile. She worried about money for groceries. It was hard to interact with somebody for whom money meant everything but also so little. “Like, either you aren’t realizing or you are not caring about this whole situation here,” she said. By “whole situation,” she meant her life. “You’re willing to spend $5,000 — for each one — to make this thing that was your idea, not Dad’s, and you’re wanting to send that to me instead of sending me $300 so I can have food security. What?”

  4. “The two are now estranged. Sam offered to buy Annie a house. She doesn’t want to be controlled. For the past three years, she has supported herself doing sex work, “both in person and virtual,” she told me. She posts porn on OnlyFans. She posts on Instagram Stories about mutual aid, trying to connect people who have money to share with those who need financial help.”

  5. “Annie has moved more than 20 times in the past year. When she called me in mid-September, her housing was unstable yet again. She had $1,000 in her bank account. Since 2020, she has been having flashbacks. She knows everybody takes the bits of their life and arranges them into narratives to make sense of their world. As Annie tells her life story, Sam, their brothers, and her mother kept money her father left her from her. As Annie tells her life story, she felt special and loved when, as a child, Sam read her bedtime stories. Now those memories feel like abuse. The Altman family would like the world to know: “We love Annie and will continue our best efforts to support and protect her, as any family would.” Annie is working on a one-woman show called the HumAnnie about how nobody really knows how to be a human. We’re all winging it.”

Note: Elizabeth Weil has stated the following on X in regards to her nymag article:

  1. lizweil on X: “@RemmeltE This is also a story about the tech media & its entanglement with industry. Annie was not hard to find. Nobody did the basic reporting on his family — or no one wanted to risk losing access by including Annie in a piece.” /​ X (

    1. lizweil on X: “@RemmeltE @phuckfilosophy of course — worry about losing access to pals, allies, people he funds, people he might fund, others in tech who don’t want to talk with journalists who might independently report out a story and not rely on comms....” /​ X (

    2. lizweil on X: “@RemmeltE @phuckfilosophy i’m not a tech reporter primarily and i’ve been in this industry for a long time (and it’s a rough industry to be in), so less career risk for me” /​ X (

    3. lizweil on X: “@RemmeltE @phuckfilosophy Or accept the version of personal lives as delivered by the source. Sam talked about his personal life with me a bit, as did Jack. Just didn’t ever reference Annie.” /​ X (

My Perspective

Opening Comments

  1. This post began when I stumbled upon a repost on X of a post from Annie Altman in which she claimed that her brother, Sam Altman, sexually assaulted/​abused her as a child (she was 4, he was 13), and that she has endured various other forms of abuse from him throughout her life. As it turns out, Annie has made a lot of very serious claims about Sam Altman.

  2. I believe there is a very high probability that Annie Altman is who she claims to be—the sister of Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI. I believe this because:

    1. Sam Altman posted a link on Twitter in 2018 to Annie’s YouTube channel (“Go check out my sister on Youtube!”)

    2. Annie did an episode for her podcast featuring her brothers Sam Altman, Jack Altman, and Max Altman in 2018.

    3. There are old newspaper reports in various places around the Internet listing Annie as a sibling of Sam, Jack, and Max Altman in, for example, obituary-type webpages related to the death and funeral of their father, Jerry Altman.

    4. Both Sam Altman and Annie Altman spoke personally to Elizabeth Weil of nymag for her “Sam Altman Is the Oppenheimer of Our Age” article she published in Sept. 2023.

      Picture is taken from this article. In the picture on the left, you see Annie Altman (front left), Sam Altman (front right), and then Jack and Sam Altman in the back (not sure who is who.)

  3. I believe there is a high probability that Sam knows of the claims that Annie has made about him. I believe this because:

    1. Sam shared a link to Annie’s Youtube channel in 2018. From this, I infer he is aware of her other social media profiles, where she has made her claims about Sam.

    2. Sam and Annie both personally interviewed Elizabeth Weil for her September 2023 nymag article. The article was published, and I infer that Sam, having consented to be interviewed for the article, knows that the article exists and has read it.

  4. Annie Altman has been posting consistently about being abused by Sam Altman (and Jack Altman, to a lesser extent) for about 4 years (~2019-present) across multiple social media platforms. Annie is largely self-consistent with the claims she makes over time.

  5. In my view, Annie’s claims have been paid little attention, considering the power and notoriety of the person about whom she is making them—Sam Altman—and the seriousness of the claims she has been making. Besides Elizabeth Weil’s nymag article (here), there has been virtually zero (mainstream) media coverage of the extremely serious claims that Annie has consistently made many, many times against Sam Altman over the past 4 years.

So—since it seems like no writer or journalist on the planet, besides me, for some reason, has ever properly answered this question, I’ll take a swing at it:

What exactly has Annie Altman claimed about Sam Altman?

My Personal Understanding/​Interpretation of Annie’s story and the chronology of her life

The following provides a chronology of Annie’s life that I have constructed from her claims. This is my understanding of her claims. This is not me asserting that the following has been proven to be true, as it has not.

  1. In ~1998, when Annie is 4 years old, a 13-years-old Sam Altman non-consensually climbs into her bed (implied: sexually assaults Annie.) The specifics are unclear. All that Annie has stated is that Sam was something like her “first {sex work} client”, that he used her to “help him figure out his sexuality”, and that her brothers “touched her.” (implied: in an inappropriate /​ nonconsensual way that would be classified as sexual abuse.)

    1. Annie, being 4 years old, does not form a concrete memory of this event that she fully understands /​ comprehends /​ accepts. That is, as she grows up and develops higher consciousness, sentience, intelligence, and self-awareness, she does not remember what Sam did to her, due to the fact that, when Sam sexually assaulted her (when she was 4 years old), her brain was extremely young, and the event was extremely traumatic for her younger self in a way that was hard for her to even conceptualize, much less understand and remember. Instead, Annie’s “remembrances” of Sam’s sexual assault of her manifest as extreme anxiety and suicidal thoughts around the age of 5-6, and emotional and mental problems (e.g. issues with relationship with her own body, needing to take antidepressants, depression, etc.)

  2. Around age 5-6, Annie starts dealing with extreme anxiety and suicidal ideation. As Annie puts it, she “{tells} her birth mother about wanting to end this life thing and being touched by older siblings, and said ‘mother’ decided to instead protect her sons and demand to receive therapy and chores only from her female child.”

  3. As she grows up, though Annie does not have a complete memory of the sexual abuse she experienced in her early childhood, she practically embodies the dictionary definition of “symptoms common in those who have experienced sexual abuse in early childhood.” Panic attacks, depression, body image problems, eating disorders, anxiety, suicidal thoughts—the list goes on.

  4. Annie starts using Zoloft at age 13 to help with symptoms of OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder), anxiety, and depression. She eventually tapers herself off of Zoloft at age 22.

    1. Zoloft becomes relevant again later on in Annie’s chronology.

  5. Annie enters college. She ends up finishing college early (even though she was trying to graduate even earlier, I think?). However, upon graduating, she is extremely depressed, and ends up forsaking the medical school route. Instead, she seeks out a place to live that, as Elizabeth Weil writes, “felt better to her. She wanted to make art.” In Annie’s own words, she “majored in Biopsychology in college, with a minor in dance, and took all the prerequisite courses for medical school. Then I noped out of the pre-med route to focus on movement, writing, comedy, music, and food. I got certified as a yoga teacher, worked for an online CSA (community-supported agriculture) company, began writing more frequently, started slowly going to open mic nights and putting videos on YouTube, and began a podcast and this blog.”

  6. At some point in 2018, Annie visits Sam in San Francisco and plays ukulele to an audience including Sam and his friends. While she is playing the ukulele, Sam abruptly, wordlessly gets up and walks upstairs to his room (as reported in the nymag article; see above.)

    1. The next day, Sam says something along the lines of “his stomach hurt” or “he was too drunk/​stoned” or “he needed to take a moment.” Annie finds this explanation to be odd.

  7. In May 2018, Annie’s Dad dies.

  8. In Aug 2018, Annie starts a podcast, the All Humans Are Human podcast.

    1. Annie experiences “6 months of hacking into all her accounts” after starting her podcast (in 2018).

  9. On Dec 7, 2018, Annie records and publishes an episode of her podcast featuring Sam Altman, Max Altman, and Jack Altman: 21. Podcastukkah #5: Feedback is feedback with Sam Altman, Max Altman, and Jack Altman.

    1. At this point in time, Annie still has not yet remembered /​ processed what Sam did to her at age 4. This is why she is ok with doing this podcast episode with Sam and her other brothers.

    2. Following the recording of Annie’s podcast episode with her brothers Sam, Jack, and Max in 2018, Sam (and Jack) refuse to share a link to the podcast, citing the argument that it “didn’t align with their businesses” (as reported in nymag; see above.)

  10. In 2019, Annie gets sick with PCOS, an IBS flare-up, a long-term problem with her Achilles (not sure on the specifics), and posterior tibial tendinopathy, as well as with a bout of tonsilitis.

  11. Also, in 2019, about a year after her Dad’s death, Annie is notified about being (as stated in her Dad’s will) the primary beneficiary of her Dad’s 401K.

  12. In light of these situational factors, Annie makes a plan to quit her job for 6 months to focus on her health. She notifies her relatives (from what I understand, primarily: Sam Altman, Jack Altman, Max Altman, and her mother) of this plan.

  13. Annie carries out her plan as intended. However, Sam, as well as Annie’s mother and some of her other relatives, exploit a loophole that allows them to withhold the money that Annie’s Dad left to her in his will.
    At some point, Annie is connected with one of Sam Altman’s lawyers. Annie is told that she will only receive money if she starts taking Zoloft again (c.f. this source and this source), which she had stopped taking at age 22 (c.f. this source and this source.)

  14. As a result, Annie basically ends up sick and low on money. She sells some items, returns to an older job, and, for the first time, asks her millionaire brothers/​relatives for money, who proceed to haggle her about it and give her a hard time. She does “two family therapy sessions”, which terminate when she is professionally advised to stop doing such sessions.

  15. She moves back to Big Island (Hawai’i.) For some reason, Sam offers to send her a diamond of her Dad’s ashes, even though 1) Annie is low on cash, and could use cash much more than an expensive Dad-ashes-diamond, and 2) Annie’s Dad wanted just cremation, not diamond-ification. Annie finds this to be a very odd /​ insensitive gesture.

  16. At this point, Annie has begun speaking out against Sam on social media. She has also begun “survival sex work.” That is, because she was sick and broke, her options for (more conventional forms of) employment were very limited, and thus she was forced to resort to sex work to financially support herself.

  17. In 2020, Sam offers to buy Annie a house...but there’s strings attached. She has to meet with a Sam Altman lawyer. Annie sees this as an attempt by Sam to increase his control over her /​ suppress her (and her speaking out against him on social media.) She refuses his offer (which she frequently references as a “no contact” or “no family” decision.)

  18. In 2020, Annie begins having intense, nearly day-long flashbacks, which last for 18 months. That is—she begins to remember, and realize, that Sam Altman sexually assaulted her at age 4.

    1. From what I understand, these flashbacks are a part of PTSD (relating to Sam’s sexual assault of her 4-year-old self) that Annie begins to experience (she mentions PTSD specifically here and here.)

  19. Annie seems to think (here, here) that Sam was hoping that Annie would die or commit suicide before she could do too much damage to Sam’ s reputation, carrying her knowledge to the grave.

  20. Annie continues to speak out against Sam on social media, including through various posts on Twitter/​X (c.f. the Relevant excerpts from Annie’s social media accounts section of this post.)

  21. In 2023, some of Annie’s X posts receive newfound attention /​ rediscovery on X.

    1. One of the people who sees them first the first time is me. This leads to the writing of this post.

How to interpret these claims?

  • Annie has been making these claims for a long time, and has been self-consistent in the way she has been making them, from what I can tell.

  • However, Annie has not yet provided what I would consider direct /​ indisputable proof that her claims are true. Thus, rationally, I must consider Sam Altman innocent.

  • However, this is not to say that think Annie’s claims are entirely false or implausible. Rather, I simply do not know whether Annie’s claims are true or false.

  • Given the degree to which Annie has pursued these claims, I think one of the following is likely:

    1. The severe mental /​ psychological problems which Annie is dealing with have unfortunately caused her to misunderstand, misrepresent, disconnect (to some degree from), or selectively-filter reality into an incomplete understanding.

      1. Or, relatedly, perhaps some of the (less serious) things Annie has claimed (e.g. that she had problems with her phone service, had low engagement /​ potential shadowbanning on some of her social media accounts) did indeed occur, but she overextrapolated to a larger narrative behind these events that is innaccurate.

    2. Annie is indeed telling the truth, in whole or in part.

  • I don’t know which is true. Both are certainly plausible explanations.

Things I find Questionable/​Unexplained

  • Annie has been speaking out about Sam for roughly 4 years now. In 2021, she made her claims quite clear on her X account. I am confused as to why there has been basically 0 coverage of her claims in the media? In general, why is Annie so absent in anything related to Sam Altman on the Internet, especially considering the nature of her relationship with Sam?

    • The sole exception here, of course, is Elizabeth Weil’s nymag article, but even this article doesn’t directly state the entirety of the claims that Annie has made. Instead, it kind of vaguely addresses them, using somewhat inspecific phrasing like “Now those memories feel like abuse”, or “Since 2020, she has been having flashbacks” that don’t quite capture the gravity of what Annie has been claiming.

  • If was Sam Altman was completely fine with posting a link to Annie’s Youtube channel on Twitter on Feb 2, 2018, why did he (and Jack Altman) refuse to post a link to the podcast episode he filmed with Annie on Dec 7, 2018 on the basis that it “didn’t align with {his} businesses”, as Annie claimed to Elizabeth Weil?

    • Assuming that Sam did indeed say this—again, as I am trying to be unbiased, there is no current proof that he said this—I am a bit confused, as it seems a bit inconsistent to me that Sam identified Annie’s Youtube channel as “aligning with his businesses”, yet identified the podcast that he recorded with Annie as “not aligning with his businesses.” The reason I state that this seems inconsistent is because I don’t see what exactly what it was about Annie’s podcast that made it “not align” with Sam’s businesses given that Annie’s Youtube channel “did align.”

  • Why, as some commenters on Hacker News claim, has a post regarding Annie’s claims that Sam sexually assaulted her at age 4 been repeatedly removed?

    1. https://​​​​item?id=37785072

    2. https://​​​​JOSourcing/​​status/​​1710390512455401888

Anticipating and Responding to Potential Objections

I initially hesitated to make this post, because I was initially skeptical of Annie’s claims. However, I changed my mind—I think there is a nonzero probability that Annie is telling the truth, in whole or in part, and thus believe her claims ought to receive greater attention and further investigation.

Assuming that my personal understanding of Annie’s story, as presented above, is correct, Annie’s behavior potentially makes sense.

Soassuming my understanding is correct, I provide the following responses to (potential) objections regarding (the validity of) Annie’s claims:

  • Objection 1 (to Annie’s claims): “It seems like Annie is just doing this for money. She’s linking to her OnlyFans and to her Venmo, CashApp, and PayPal on X.”

    • My response: I do think this is a reasonable objection. However, I think this behavior could be plausible in light of the chronology of Annie’s life:

      • A 13-year-old Sam sexually assaults a 4-year-old Annie.

      • As Annie grows older, she does not explicitly remember this event (until 2020), but experiences a multitude of severe psychological and mental traumas and illnesses stemming from this early sexual abuse (see above.)

      • When she begins to remember this event in 2020, it takes a severe toll on her (and she had already been dealing with many mental health issues since the age of 4 even without explicitly remembering Sam’s sexual assault of her (as the source of her psychological maladies)), and weakens her ability to financially support herself.

  • Objection 2: “Annie hosted a podcast in 2018 with her brothers (Sam, Jack, and Max), but seems to have been unhappy that her brothers, particularly Sam, refused her request to share (the link to) her podcast (e.g. on Twitter.) This seems to potentially be part of a pattern of behavior wherein Annie tries to exploit the status of her brothers for her own gain.”

    • My response: I do think that this objection holds merit. In her nymag article, Elizabeth Weil writes, “Among her various art projects, Annie makes a podcast called All Humans Are Human. The first Thanksgiving after their father’s death, all the brothers agreed to record an episode with her. Annie wanted to talk on air about the psychological phenomenon of projection: what we put on other people. The brothers steered the conversation into the idea of feedback — specifically, how to give feedback at work. After she posted the show online, Annie hoped her siblings, particularly Sam, would share it. He’d contributed to their brothers’ careers. Jack’s company, Lattice, had been through YC. “I was like, ‘You could just tweet the link. That would help. You don’t want to share your sister’s podcast that you came on?’” He did not. “Jack and Sam said it didn’t align with their businesses.”” I find this account to be plausible, yet do not think it entirely dispels the objection.

  • Objection 3: “It seems Annie has been dealing with a variety of severe mental and psychological ailments throughout her life. She also seems to smoke/​drink occasionally. It may well be that these claims are borne purely out these sorts of ailments of hers (or are of some other untrustworthy origin).”

    • My response: I think this is a valid concern to raise. As with much of the information presented here, I would be interested in hearing more from Annie.

  • Objection 4: “While Annie’s claims are concerning, and her online activity and presence across a variety of media platforms does potentially support her claims, Annie has provided no direct evidence to corroborate her claims. We ought to hold Sam Altman innocent until proven guilty.”

    • My response: I think this is a valid position. I actually agree with it. Hopefully, as a result of this post, we potentially receive a more detailed account or perspective on this matter from Annie, Sam, or others close to this matter (e.g. Jack Altman, Max Altman, etc.)

Concluding Remarks

To be clear, in this post, I am not definitively stating that I believe Annie’s claims. Annie, to the best of my knowledge, has not provided direct proof—the sort that would be usable in court—of the claims she’s made of Sam Altman.

I currently hold that I do not know if Annie’s claims are true or not, though I will note that her online activity have been self-consistent over a long period of time, and seems to match up with activity from Sam in a few places (e.g. in the podcast episode she recorded with him.) I currently cannot disprove Sam Altman’s innocence, as I do not think I can say that he has been proven guilty.

Rather, as previously stated, I am hoping to draw attention to a body of information that I think warrants further investigation, as I think that there is a nonzero probability that Annie is telling the truth, in whole or in part, and that this must be taken extremely seriously in light of the gravity of the claims she is making and the position of the person about whom she is making them.

The information provided above makes me think it is likely that Sam Altman is aware of the claims that Annie Altman has made about him. To my knowledge, he has not directly, publicly responded to any of her claims.

Given the gravity of Sam Altman’s position at the helm of the company leading the development of an artificial superintelligence which it does not yet know how to align—to imbue with morality and ethics—I feel Annie’s claims warrant a far greater level of investigation than they’ve received thus far.

A quick update

I have made an X account @prometheus5105 where I responded to a recent post of Annie’s (on X) asking her to confirm/​deny the accuracy of my post:

Unfortunately, within minutes of creating my account, I received the following message:

So, for now, my account is going to look suspicious, following only 1 account. Sorry.