Alas, we are running into some kind of technical delay. More details soon.
Raemon(Raymond Arnold)
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Nod. I definitely agree “keep in contact” is the main thing and if people are arguing over the details, probably better to roll with what a given person is comfortable with.
This question was oriented around groups of people where everyone agrees that that it’s worth some experimentation and investment in a good longterm product, or who don’t yet have a solid default. (For example, I’ve found that video-call-quality matters a lot more now that I’m doing them for hours at a time on a regular basis, whereas before I’d have been happy to grab a google hangout or slack or whatever for the occasional 45 minute call)
Thanks! Curious if you’ve compared RingCentral to Zoom?
[Question] What are the best online tools for meetups and meetings?
Ah, okay yes that makes sense.
I have roughly two use cases in mind here:
a) the sort of person who wasn’t that trustworthy in the first place and was probably going to start hanging out with friends within a few weeks even if official quarantines weren’t lifted, but who might follow basic precautions if they were spelled out clearly.
b) small high trust networks where everyone has been quarantining (and documenting their quarantine), nobody has been interacting with anyone outside the network, etc. (but, still with a margin of error added so that a single person who’s been exposed unknowingly doesn’t end up auto-infecting everyone)
That makes sense, and does update me against public gatherings (but, I’m thinking of things on the timescale of a months to a year. I’m guessing it’ll get increasingly hard to keep people apart. I’m also thinking less in terms of groups of 60, and more more like groups of 2-5)
I was thinking of thresholds that were more like “at least 12 feet apart, maybe 20 feet”, with nobody touching any objects. (Also, I’m assuming this is all outdoors)
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What makes you think that?
I’m also particularly interested in the “people are not wearing masks” answer, since a) I expect masks to continue to be in short supply, b) masks are just really annoying and I expect people to not wear them.
Thanks. Gave it a quick skim and will hopefully comb through and pull out useful bits later tonight.
(I’m assuming there’s basically always some risk if you go out at all, but, like, at what point does the risk fall under one’s usual exposure to micromorts?)
That makes sense for essential grocery trips and similar things, as an overall public policy.
The thing I’m trying to figure out is “if you wanted to see friends/neighbors without hurting each other on a regular basis (i.e. going on walks, or visiting each other’s front porch), how much distance do you have to maintain to actually be confident that you wouldn’t infect each other for months on end?”
[Question] What is the safe in-person distance for COVID-19?
Some questions that seem relevant to my overall model here:
What percentage of the economy is “essential business?”, according to most shelter-in-place laws?
Seems like a fairly large number of businesses are essential according to california law, large enough that counting it up manually would be a pretty big project.
This article claims the New York law affects 75% of the workforce.
What percentage should be considered “essential business” for purposes of maintaining longterm supply chains? California lists “critical manufacturing” as an essential industry but I wouldn’t be that surprised if it turned out to be missing pieces that turn out to be important for longterm functioning.
What fraction of jobs currently “can’t be remote”, but which could become remote with retooling?
I know one person who’s already been laid off. I suspect there should be numbers somewhere we can look for how many people were laid off in the first 2 weeks, which may give us some inkling of what’s to come.
(This was originally an answer, Elizabeth moved it to comments)
I basically agree with “this question really depends on what the counterfactual is.” (And I personally guess the counterfactual is ‘knee-jerk-quarantine response in a couple weeks that is worse than swift action on all dimensions.’)
I still think the question is useful for a couple reasons:
Simplifying the problem
For “what policies should governments do, and/or what should people advocate for?”, the ultimate answer is pretty complex, includes “what you expect the government to do by default, and what do you think the easiest thing to get them to do instead.”
But, answering the simpler question of “how will this affect the economy” helps give some gears to inform the more complicated questions.
What sort of economic trends to brace for
If you think (as I do) that quarantine is basically inevitable, it still matters “what will happen to the economy tho?”, not for deciding what to do about coronavirus, but for how to plan the rest of your life.
I personally have been interested in using some of the UI here to try an alternate version of the All Posts page. But other team members were skeptical of that and there are no concrete plans at the moment.
I’m particularly interested to hear how people expect to use Tagging the most (both for coronavirus in particular and in general once it ramps up)
When you look at the coronavirus tag page and experiment with it, what works well, what feels clunky? How does the tag-relevance-voting system feel? Would you personally want to subscribe to the tag page? Would you personally get value out of a recent discussion section on the page?
Sorry, I worded that wrong. Edited the OP.
New link, now working: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qYNjZZGLDQ&feature=youtu.be