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Deception

TagLast edit: 8 Feb 2023 14:23 UTC by Roman Leventov

Deception is the act of sharing information in a way which intentionally misleads others.

Related Pages: Deceptive Alignment, Honesty, Meta-Honesty, Self-Deception, Simulacrum Levels

Maybe Ly­ing Can’t Ex­ist?!

Zack_M_Davis23 Aug 2020 0:36 UTC
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Agree­ing With Stalin in Ways That Ex­hibit Gen­er­ally Ra­tion­al­ist Principles

Zack_M_Davis2 Mar 2024 22:05 UTC
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(unremediatedgender.space)

Al­gorithms of De­cep­tion!

Zack_M_Davis19 Oct 2019 18:04 UTC
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AI De­cep­tion: A Sur­vey of Ex­am­ples, Risks, and Po­ten­tial Solutions

29 Aug 2023 1:29 UTC
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Con­flict The­ory of Bounded Distrust

Zack_M_Davis12 Feb 2023 5:30 UTC
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In­ter­pret­ing the Learn­ing of Deceit

RogerDearnaley18 Dec 2023 8:12 UTC
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Deep Deceptiveness

So8res21 Mar 2023 2:51 UTC
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De­con­fus­ing Deception

J Bostock29 Jan 2022 16:43 UTC
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On hid­ing the source of knowledge

jessicata26 Jan 2020 2:48 UTC
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(unstableontology.com)

LCDT, A My­opic De­ci­sion Theory

3 Aug 2021 22:41 UTC
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Op­ti­mized Pro­pa­ganda with Bayesian Net­works: Com­ment on “Ar­tic­u­lat­ing Lay The­o­ries Through Graph­i­cal Models”

Zack_M_Davis29 Jun 2020 2:45 UTC
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So­ci­aLLM: pro­posal for a lan­guage model de­sign for per­son­al­ised apps, so­cial sci­ence, and AI safety research

Roman Leventov19 Dec 2023 16:49 UTC
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If Clar­ity Seems Like Death to Them

Zack_M_Davis30 Dec 2023 17:40 UTC
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(unremediatedgender.space)

[Question] Why do so many think de­cep­tion in AI is im­por­tant?

Prometheus13 Jan 2024 8:14 UTC
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Difficulty classes for al­ign­ment properties

Jozdien20 Feb 2024 9:08 UTC
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Ly­ing is Cowardice, not Strategy

24 Oct 2023 13:24 UTC
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(cognition.cafe)

Firm­ing Up Not-Ly­ing Around Its Edge-Cases Is Less Broadly Use­ful Than One Might Ini­tially Think

Zack_M_Davis27 Dec 2019 5:09 UTC
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Maybe Ly­ing Doesn’t Exist

Zack_M_Davis14 Oct 2019 7:04 UTC
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Can crimes be dis­cussed liter­ally?

Benquo22 Mar 2020 20:17 UTC
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(benjaminrosshoffman.com)

Don’t Dou­ble-Crux With Suicide Rock

Zack_M_Davis1 Jan 2020 19:02 UTC
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Ly­ing Align­ment Chart

Zack_M_Davis29 Nov 2023 16:15 UTC
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“Ra­tion­al­iz­ing” and “Sit­ting Bolt Upright in Alarm.”

Raemon8 Jul 2019 20:34 UTC
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Su­per­in­tel­li­gence 11: The treach­er­ous turn

KatjaGrace25 Nov 2014 2:00 UTC
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“On Bul­lshit” and “On Truth,” by Harry Frankfurt

Callmesalticidae28 Aug 2020 0:44 UTC
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When Some­one Tells You They’re Ly­ing, Believe Them

ymeskhout14 Jul 2023 0:31 UTC
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Model Or­ganisms of Misal­ign­ment: The Case for a New Pillar of Align­ment Research

8 Aug 2023 1:30 UTC
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Less Wrong Poetry Corner: Coven­try Pat­more’s “Magna Est Ver­i­tas”

Zack_M_Davis30 Jan 2021 5:16 UTC
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Over­con­fi­dence is Deceit

[DEACTIVATED] Duncan Sabien17 Feb 2021 10:45 UTC
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Un­nat­u­ral Cat­e­gories Are Op­ti­mized for Deception

Zack_M_Davis8 Jan 2021 20:54 UTC
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Com­mu­ni­ca­tion Re­quires Com­mon In­ter­ests or Differ­en­tial Sig­nal Costs

Zack_M_Davis26 Mar 2021 6:41 UTC
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[Book Re­view] “Hou­dini on Magic” by Harry Houdini

lsusr29 Sep 2021 2:37 UTC
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Com­ment on “De­cep­tion as Co­op­er­a­tion”

Zack_M_Davis27 Nov 2021 4:04 UTC
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On Bounded Distrust

Zvi3 Feb 2022 14:50 UTC
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(thezvi.wordpress.com)

[Question] Every­one’s mired in the deep­est con­fu­sion, some of the time?

M. Y. Zuo9 Feb 2022 2:53 UTC
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The Speed + Sim­plic­ity Prior is prob­a­bly anti-deceptive

Yonadav Shavit27 Apr 2022 19:30 UTC
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Pre­cur­sor check­ing for de­cep­tive alignment

evhub3 Aug 2022 22:56 UTC
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How likely is de­cep­tive al­ign­ment?

evhub30 Aug 2022 19:34 UTC
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“Ra­tion­al­ist Dis­course” Is Like “Physi­cist Mo­tors”

Zack_M_Davis26 Feb 2023 5:58 UTC
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Con­tract Fraud

jefftk1 Mar 2023 3:10 UTC
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(www.jefftk.com)

Notes on Honesty

David Gross28 Oct 2020 0:54 UTC
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Notes on Sincer­ity and such

David Gross1 Dec 2020 5:09 UTC
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En­tan­gled Truths, Con­ta­gious Lies

Eliezer Yudkowsky15 Oct 2008 23:39 UTC
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Know­ing I’m Be­ing Tricked is Barely Enough

Elizabeth26 Feb 2019 17:50 UTC
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(acesounderglass.com)

Not Tech­ni­cally Lying

Psychohistorian4 Jul 2009 18:40 UTC
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Sex, Lies, and Dexamethasone

Jacob Falkovich20 Feb 2018 19:56 UTC
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At­ten­tion! Fi­nan­cial scam tar­get­ing Less Wrong users

Viliam_Bur14 May 2016 17:38 UTC
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If we can’t lie to oth­ers, we will lie to ourselves

paulfchristiano26 Nov 2016 22:29 UTC
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(sideways-view.com)

Train­ing Trace Pri­ors and Speed Priors

Adam Jermyn26 Jun 2022 18:07 UTC
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A way to make solv­ing al­ign­ment 10.000 times eas­ier. The shorter case for a mas­sive open source sim­box pro­ject.

AlexFromSafeTransition21 Jun 2023 8:08 UTC
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Univer­sal­ity Unwrapped

adamShimi21 Aug 2020 18:53 UTC
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La­tent Ad­ver­sar­ial Training

Adam Jermyn29 Jun 2022 20:04 UTC
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Func­tional silence: com­mu­ni­ca­tion that min­i­mizes change of re­ceiver’s beliefs

chaosmage12 Feb 2019 21:32 UTC
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Of Lies and Black Swan Blowups

Eliezer Yudkowsky7 Apr 2009 18:26 UTC
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Model­ling Deception

Garrett Baker18 Jul 2022 21:21 UTC
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[Linkpost] De­cep­tion Abil­ities Emerged in Large Lan­guage Models

Bogdan Ionut Cirstea3 Aug 2023 17:28 UTC
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De­cep­tion as the op­ti­mal: mesa-op­ti­miz­ers and in­ner al­ign­ment

Eleni Angelou16 Aug 2022 4:49 UTC
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Cor­rigi­bil­ity thoughts III: ma­nipu­lat­ing ver­sus deceiving

Stuart_Armstrong18 Jan 2017 15:57 UTC
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Blatant lies are the best kind!

Benquo3 Jul 2019 20:45 UTC
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(benjaminrosshoffman.com)

[LINK] EA Has A Ly­ing Problem

Benquo11 Jan 2017 22:31 UTC
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(srconstantin.wordpress.com)

Match­ing dona­tion fundraisers can be harm­fully dishon­est.

Benquo11 Nov 2016 21:05 UTC
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Mislead­ing the witness

Bo1020109 Aug 2009 20:13 UTC
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The Santa de­cep­tion: how did it af­fect you?

Desrtopa20 Dec 2010 22:27 UTC
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My Clients, The Liars

ymeskhout5 Mar 2024 21:06 UTC
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How to solve de­cep­tion and still fail.

Charlie Steiner4 Oct 2023 19:56 UTC
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Thoughts On (Solv­ing) Deep Deception

Jozdien21 Oct 2023 22:40 UTC
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Three sce­nar­ios of pseudo-al­ign­ment

Eleni Angelou3 Sep 2022 12:47 UTC
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Mon­i­tor­ing for de­cep­tive alignment

evhub8 Sep 2022 23:07 UTC
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Get­ting up to Speed on the Speed Prior in 2022

robertzk28 Dec 2022 7:49 UTC
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(Par­tial) failure in repli­cat­ing de­cep­tive al­ign­ment experiment

claudia.biancotti7 Jan 2024 17:56 UTC
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The com­mer­cial in­cen­tive to in­ten­tion­ally train AI to de­ceive us

Derek M. Jones29 Dec 2022 11:30 UTC
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(shape-of-code.com)

De­cep­tive failures short of full catas­tro­phe.

Alex Lawsen 15 Jan 2023 19:28 UTC
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De­cep­tion Chess

Chris Land1 Jan 2024 15:40 UTC
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Dis­cus­sion: Challenges with Un­su­per­vised LLM Knowl­edge Discovery

18 Dec 2023 11:58 UTC
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AI x-risk, ap­prox­i­mately or­dered by embarrassment

Alex Lawsen 12 Apr 2023 23:01 UTC
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Re­search Re­port: In­cor­rect­ness Cascades

Robert_AIZI14 Apr 2023 12:49 UTC
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(aizi.substack.com)

De­cep­tion Strategies

Thoth Hermes20 Apr 2023 15:59 UTC
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(thothhermes.substack.com)

I was Wrong, Si­mu­la­tor The­ory is Real

Robert_AIZI26 Apr 2023 17:45 UTC
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(aizi.substack.com)

LM Si­tu­a­tional Aware­ness, Eval­u­a­tion Pro­posal: Vio­lat­ing Imitation

Jacob Pfau26 Apr 2023 22:53 UTC
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EIS VIII: An Eng­ineer’s Un­der­stand­ing of De­cep­tive Alignment

scasper19 Feb 2023 15:25 UTC
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Tall Tales at Differ­ent Scales: Eval­u­at­ing Scal­ing Trends For De­cep­tion In Lan­guage Models

8 Nov 2023 11:37 UTC
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Large Lan­guage Models can Strate­gi­cally De­ceive their Users when Put Un­der Pres­sure.

ReaderM15 Nov 2023 16:36 UTC
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(arxiv.org)

In­duc­ing Un­prompted Misal­ign­ment in LLMs

19 Apr 2024 20:00 UTC
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Why I’m Wor­ried About AI

peterbarnett23 May 2022 21:13 UTC
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‘Em­piri­cism!’ as Anti-Epistemology

Eliezer Yudkowsky14 Mar 2024 2:02 UTC
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Train­ing Trace Priors

Adam Jermyn13 Jun 2022 14:22 UTC
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Multi­gate Priors

Adam Jermyn15 Jun 2022 19:30 UTC
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Con­di­tion­ing Gen­er­a­tive Models

Adam Jermyn25 Jun 2022 22:15 UTC
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For­mal­iz­ing Deception

JamesH26 Jun 2022 17:39 UTC
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LLMs can strate­gi­cally de­ceive while do­ing gain-of-func­tion re­search

Igor Ivanov24 Jan 2024 15:45 UTC
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An In­creas­ingly Ma­nipu­la­tive Newsfeed

Michaël Trazzi1 Jul 2019 15:26 UTC
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Chee­rios: An “Un­tested New Drug”

MBlume15 May 2009 2:26 UTC
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How the­ism works

Paul Crowley10 Apr 2009 16:16 UTC
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Toy model of the AI con­trol prob­lem: an­i­mated version

Stuart_Armstrong10 Oct 2017 11:06 UTC
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Dishon­est Up­date Reporting

Zvi4 May 2019 14:10 UTC
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(thezvi.wordpress.com)

White Lies

ChrisHallquist8 Feb 2014 1:20 UTC
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Are min­i­mal cir­cuits de­cep­tive?

evhub7 Sep 2019 18:11 UTC
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Will trans­parency help catch de­cep­tion? Per­haps not

Matthew Barnett4 Nov 2019 20:52 UTC
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Plau­si­bly, al­most ev­ery pow­er­ful al­gorithm would be manipulative

Stuart_Armstrong6 Feb 2020 11:50 UTC
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Why ar­tifi­cial op­ti­mism?

jessicata15 Jul 2019 21:41 UTC
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(unstableontology.com)
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