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Si­mu­la­tion Hypothesis

TagLast edit: 14 Feb 2023 22:43 UTC by amelia

The Simulation Hypothesis proposes that conscious beings could be immersed within an artificial Universe embedded within a higher order of reality. The roots of this argument can be found throughout the history of philosophy in such works as Plato’s “Allegory of the Cave” and Descartes “evil demon”.

The important distinction between these and modern Simulation Arguments has been the addition of proposed methods of engineering Simulated Reality through the use of computers. The modern Simulation Argument makes the case that since a civilization will be able to simulate many more ancient civilizations than there were ancient civilizations, it is more likely that we are in a simulated universe than not. It shows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation.

John Barrow has suggested that if we are living in a computer simulation we may observe “glitches” in our programmed environment due to the level of detail being compromised to save computing power. Alternatively, the Simulators may not have a full understanding of the Laws of Nature which would mean over time the simulated environment would drift away from its stable state. These “glitches” could be identified by scientists scrutinizing nature using unusual methods of observation. However, Nick Bostrom argues that it is extremely likely that a civilization will have computational powers far surpassing the ones needed to simulate an ancient civilization in great detail. Moreover, one can argue that due to exponential grow, it’s extremely unlikely that the simulators are in the region of progress where they already can simulate an artificial reality but can’t simulate it with finer detail. They either can’t simulate at all, or have computational powers that far exceed the needed amount.

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some simu­la­tion hypotheses

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Align­ment work in anoma­lous worlds

Tamsin Leake16 Dec 2023 19:34 UTC
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The AI in a box boxes you

Stuart_Armstrong2 Feb 2010 10:10 UTC
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Shock Level 5: Big Wor­lds and Mo­dal Realism

Roko25 May 2010 23:19 UTC
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That Alien Message

Eliezer Yudkowsky22 May 2008 5:55 UTC
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The math­e­mat­i­cal uni­verse: the map that is the territory

ata26 Mar 2010 9:26 UTC
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[Question] Is the fact that we don’t ob­serve any ob­vi­ous glitch ev­i­dence that we’re not in a simu­la­tion?

Jim Buhler26 Apr 2023 14:57 UTC
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Does the simu­la­tion ar­gu­ment even need simu­la­tions?

lmm11 Oct 2013 21:16 UTC
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Si­mu­la­tion­ist sym­pa­thetic magic

DataPacRat13 Nov 2012 3:45 UTC
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Si­mu­lated Elon Musk Lives in a Simulation

lsusr18 Sep 2021 7:37 UTC
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The Si­mu­la­tion Hy­poth­e­sis Un­der­cuts the SIA/​Great Filter Dooms­day Argument

1 Oct 2021 22:23 UTC
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On the Im­pos­si­bil­ity of In­ter­ac­tion with Si­mu­lated Agents

Walkabout13 Jan 2022 17:50 UTC
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Si­mu­la­tion arguments

Joe Carlsmith18 Feb 2022 10:45 UTC
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Fore­cast­ing Through Fiction

Yitz6 Jul 2022 5:03 UTC
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[Question] Could the simu­la­tion ar­gu­ment also ap­ply to dreams?

Nathan112317 Aug 2022 19:55 UTC
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LOVE in a sim­box is all you need

jacob_cannell28 Sep 2022 18:25 UTC
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Kol­mogorov Com­plex­ity and Si­mu­la­tion Hypothesis

False Name14 Dec 2022 22:01 UTC
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“How to Es­cape from the Si­mu­la­tion”—Seeds of Science call for reviewers

rogersbacon26 Jan 2023 15:11 UTC
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A Stranger Pri­or­ity? Topics at the Outer Reaches of Effec­tive Altru­ism (my dis­ser­ta­tion)

Joe Carlsmith21 Feb 2023 17:26 UTC
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The alien simu­la­tion meme doesn’t make sense

FTPickle24 Feb 2023 19:27 UTC
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How to Es­cape From the Si­mu­la­tion (Seeds of Science)

rogersbacon15 Mar 2023 18:46 UTC
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Ram­ble on STUFF: in­tel­li­gence, simu­la­tion, AI, doom, de­fault mode, the usual

Bill Benzon26 Aug 2023 15:49 UTC
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Con­tain­ing the AI… In­side a Si­mu­lated Reality

HumaneAutomation31 Oct 2020 16:16 UTC
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Real­ity vs Vir­tual Reality

cleonid13 Mar 2009 15:17 UTC
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[Question] The Si­mu­la­tion Epiphany Problem

Koen.Holtman31 Oct 2019 22:12 UTC
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Lack of Spi­der-Man is ev­i­dence against the simu­la­tion hypothesis

RamblinDash6 Jan 2024 18:17 UTC
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Are you in a Boltz­mann simu­la­tion?

Stuart_Armstrong13 Sep 2018 12:56 UTC
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Si­mu­la­tion Ty­pol­ogy and Ter­mi­na­tion Risks

avturchin18 May 2019 12:42 UTC
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Si­mu­la­tions Map: what is the most prob­a­ble type of the simu­la­tion in which we live?

turchin11 Oct 2015 5:10 UTC
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Phys­i­cal­ism im­plies ex­pe­rience never dies. So what am I go­ing to ex­pe­rience af­ter it does?

Szymon Kucharski14 Mar 2021 14:45 UTC
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On Falsify­ing the Si­mu­la­tion Hy­poth­e­sis (or Em­brac­ing its Pre­dic­tions)

lorepieri12 Apr 2021 0:12 UTC
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Si­mu­la­tion the­ol­ogy: prac­ti­cal as­pect.

Just Learning5 May 2021 2:20 UTC
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The Anti-Carter Basilisk

Jon Gilbert26 May 2021 22:56 UTC
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A Differ­ent Kind of Ark: My failed at­tempt to build a bridge be­tween universes

ChrisM10 Feb 2023 20:49 UTC
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A suffi­ciently para­noid non-Friendly AGI might self-mod­ify it­self to be­come Friendly

RomanS22 Sep 2021 6:29 UTC
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Si­mu­la­tions and Altruism

FateGrinder5 Apr 2024 13:38 UTC
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[simu­la­tion] 4chan user claiming to be the at­tor­ney hired by Google’s sen­tient chat­bot LaMDA shares wild de­tails of encounter

janus10 Nov 2022 21:39 UTC
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[Question] Re­v­erse en­g­ineer­ing of the simulation

jan betley7 Feb 2022 21:36 UTC
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Theod­icy and the simu­la­tion hy­poth­e­sis, or: The prob­lem of simu­la­tor evil

philosophybear26 Dec 2022 18:55 UTC
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[Question] What do you think will most prob­a­bly hap­pen to our con­scious­ness when our simu­la­tion ends?

ArtMi12 Apr 2022 8:23 UTC
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Ne­go­ti­at­ing Up and Down the Si­mu­la­tion Hier­ar­chy: Why We Might Sur­vive the Unal­igned Singularity

David Udell4 May 2022 4:21 UTC
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[Question] A ter­rify­ing var­i­ant of Boltz­mann’s brains problem

Zeruel01730 May 2022 20:08 UTC
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[Question] What is the most prob­a­ble AI?

Zeruel01720 Jun 2022 23:26 UTC
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How does AI Risk Affect the Si­mu­la­tion Hy­poth­e­sis?

amelia20 Apr 2023 3:16 UTC
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[Link] Does a Si­mu­la­tion Really Need to Be Run?

VincentYu22 Jun 2011 23:28 UTC
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Beyond Astro­nom­i­cal Waste

Wei Dai7 Jun 2018 21:04 UTC
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What would con­vince you you’d won the lot­tery?

Stuart_Armstrong10 Oct 2017 13:45 UTC
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Philo­soph­i­cal Cy­borg (Part 2)...or, The Good Successor

ukc1001421 Jun 2023 15:43 UTC
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How I Learned To Stop Wor­ry­ing And Love The Shoggoth

Peter Merel12 Jul 2023 17:47 UTC
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A Strange Ar­gu­ment about the po­ten­tial Im­por­tance of Mul­ti­verse Theory

mako yass2 Feb 2016 4:22 UTC
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[Question] Does one have rea­son to be­lieve the simu­la­tion hy­poth­e­sis is prob­a­bly true?

kuira22 Aug 2023 8:34 UTC
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