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Steelmanning

TagLast edit: 14 Feb 2021 7:12 UTC by Yoav Ravid

Steelmanning is the act of taking a view, or opinion, or argument and constructing the strongest possible version of it. It is the opposite of strawmanning.

External Posts:
Against Steelmanning by Thing of Things

See also: Disagreement, Ideological Turing Tests, Least convenient possible world

ITT-pass­ing and ci­vil­ity are good; “char­ity” is bad; steel­man­ning is niche

Rob Bensinger5 Jul 2022 0:15 UTC
161 points
36 comments6 min readLW link1 review

The Least Con­ve­nient Pos­si­ble World

Scott Alexander14 Mar 2009 2:11 UTC
295 points
203 comments5 min readLW link

The case for us­ing the term ‘steel­man­ning’ in­stead of ‘prin­ci­ple of char­ity’

ChristianKl2 Jun 2022 19:24 UTC
26 points
7 comments3 min readLW link

Re­v­ersed Stu­pidity Is Not Intelligence

Eliezer Yudkowsky12 Dec 2007 22:14 UTC
172 points
119 comments3 min readLW link

Straw-Steelmanning

Chris van Merwijk13 Jul 2022 5:48 UTC
30 points
2 comments1 min readLW link

Bet­ter Disagreement

lukeprog24 Oct 2011 21:13 UTC
88 points
84 comments4 min readLW link

Against Devil’s Advocacy

Eliezer Yudkowsky9 Jun 2008 4:15 UTC
49 points
60 comments6 min readLW link

In­cor­rect hy­pothe­ses point to cor­rect observations

Kaj_Sotala20 Nov 2018 21:10 UTC
160 points
37 comments4 min readLW link
(kajsotala.fi)

Steel­man­ning Divination

Vaniver5 Jun 2019 22:53 UTC
199 points
48 comments6 min readLW link2 reviews

Steel­man­ning as an es­pe­cially in­sidious form of strawmanning

Cornelius Dybdahl11 Mar 2024 2:25 UTC
10 points
13 comments5 min readLW link

Dangers of steel­man­ning /​ prin­ci­ple of charity

gothgirl42066616 Jan 2014 6:35 UTC
148 points
94 comments2 min readLW link

Re­spond to what they prob­a­bly meant

Adam Zerner17 Jan 2015 23:37 UTC
19 points
42 comments3 min readLW link

Defend­ing the non-cen­tral fallacy

Matthew Barnett9 Mar 2021 21:42 UTC
133 points
38 comments6 min readLW link

Steel­man­ning The Devil

Screwtape21 Nov 2023 7:28 UTC
10 points
0 comments5 min readLW link

A Prac­ti­cal Guide to Con­flict Re­s­olu­tion: Comprehension

eapache13 Jun 2020 15:08 UTC
30 points
0 comments4 min readLW link

Steel­man­ning Inefficiency

Stuart_Armstrong3 Jul 2014 12:17 UTC
26 points
27 comments17 min readLW link

On the Con­trary, Steel­man­ning Is Nor­mal; ITT-Pass­ing Is Niche

Zack_M_Davis9 Jan 2024 23:12 UTC
39 points
31 comments4 min readLW link

How to learn soft skills

AnnaSalamon7 Feb 2015 5:22 UTC
130 points
29 comments7 min readLW link

Method of state­ments: an al­ter­na­tive to taboo

Q Home16 Nov 2022 10:57 UTC
7 points
0 comments41 min readLW link

Up­dated Hier­ar­chy of Disagreement

B Jacobs28 May 2020 15:57 UTC
14 points
13 comments2 min readLW link

In fa­vor of steelmanning

jp1 May 2023 17:12 UTC
36 points
6 comments1 min readLW link

Crit­i­cism of some pop­u­lar LW articles

DirectedEvolution19 Jul 2020 1:16 UTC
71 points
19 comments6 min readLW link

Ad­di­tional ar­gu­ments for NIMBY

Zvi11 Oct 2018 20:40 UTC
32 points
10 comments13 min readLW link
(thezvi.wordpress.com)

A Prodigy of Refutation

Eliezer Yudkowsky18 Sep 2008 1:57 UTC
46 points
20 comments3 min readLW link

Please Don’t Fight the Hypothetical

TimS20 Apr 2012 14:29 UTC
40 points
65 comments2 min readLW link

Un­pop­u­lar ideas at­tract poor ad­vo­cates: Be charitable

[deleted]15 Sep 2014 19:30 UTC
43 points
61 comments2 min readLW link

Good ar­gu­ments against “cul­tural ap­pro­pri­a­tion”

Tyrrell_McAllister18 Dec 2018 17:23 UTC
24 points
12 comments2 min readLW link

Listen For What You Don’t Hear: The Case for Contrarianism

Yashvardhan Sharma14 Aug 2023 2:53 UTC
1 point
1 comment5 min readLW link

Steel­man­ning the Chi­nese Room Argument

cousin_it6 Jul 2017 9:37 UTC
10 points
313 comments1 min readLW link

[Question] Please steel­man the ac­cu­sa­tions of elec­tion fraud

Tim Liptrot10 Nov 2020 4:39 UTC
2 points
8 comments1 min readLW link

The Case for Log­i­cal Fallacies

Aaron Bergman8 Mar 2021 3:04 UTC
14 points
0 comments7 min readLW link
(aaronbergman.substack.com)

The case for hypocrisy

Aaron Bergman13 May 2021 3:36 UTC
37 points
12 comments5 min readLW link
(aaronbergman.substack.com)

Steel­man ar­gu­ments against the idea that AGI is in­evitable and will ar­rive soon

RomanS9 Oct 2021 6:22 UTC
20 points
12 comments5 min readLW link

A Quick On­tol­ogy of Agreement

ravedon26 Jun 2022 17:39 UTC
5 points
2 comments2 min readLW link

In­ward and out­ward steelmanning

Q Home14 Jul 2022 23:32 UTC
13 points
6 comments18 min readLW link
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