It’s not only communists, accelerationism is a strategy applicable more generally to any sufficiently anti-status-quo ideology.
Shankar Sivarajan
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I think you’re missing some key features of the religious argument in your gloss of it. It’s not simply that God does low probability things for the lulz: it’s important that Trump’s opponents in the election (Clinton, the Democrats, etc.) be aligned with Satan, such that their victory would bring about the end of the world/human extinction. And God’s intervention to make an exceedingly unlikely event happen, contrary to the predictions of ordinary natural law, to thwart such a victory – what one might term a miracle – is taken as evidence of His existence.
Isn’t this in fact what you would predict we would observe under such stakes? That you might call it “anthropics” instead of “eucatastrophe” doesn’t change much.
> be me
> browsing LessWrong
> see a 20,000-word effortpost about a cult/”high-control dynamics”
> click link to their website expecting a masterclass in psychological manipulation
> literally called the “Monastic Academy for the Preservation of Life on Earth”
> run by a white guy wearing oriental robes calling himself “Soryu Forall”
> refers to “the Bodhisatva Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar”
> offers a “Three-Month Initiatory Training Period” in the woods of Vermont
> mfw it’s literally a jrpg villain org
> [shocked_pikachu.jpg]
> many such cases
We may have to pace the rate of AI development to give ourselves enough time for society to harden around these new capability levels.”
Didn’t he say something almost identical about GPT-2, in 2019?
all similar models
Since your reasoning seems to be entirely through specious analogy, what would you consider the analogue of this for natural persons to be?
It’s not magically aligned, it’s pointed in a random direction, and if you have choices, as long as you’re not too picky, you can find one that’s pointed in roughly the right direction along the few axes you care about on any particular task, instead of being forced to use the few that are adversarially crafted by the closed model producers at great expense to be opposed to you on every relevant axis.
And you’ll note that the likely outcome of this, supported by most people on this platform, is to advantage them and their models by banning/suppressing capable open models of the sort that the people they targeted had to use to defend themselves. For Safety™. Maybe they’re aligned just fine.
our moral intuitions that they’re still wrong proved correct when Adolf offed himself
We’re All Hitlerists Now is a great essay.
Hitler alone seems to reach into the metaphysical ether and like a Christ, Mohammed, or Buddha resolves and alters the timeless philosophical and metaphysical landscape via his temporal physical deeds.
felt totally antisocial and demonic and in general not respectful of an intuitive taboo against divine transgression
Haldane said it well:
There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god.
Ask the general public if, for example, they’d prefer a personal AI that “whistleblows” on them if they ever lie, or cheat on their girlfriends/wives, or break any law, to one that’s aligned to their interests/will.
An analogy I like is a car that reports you to the traffic cops if your parking meter runs out for Safety reasons.
There’s this brilliant line from a post about the Wikipedia article for Mao I really like (link):
Had Wikipedia died in 2011, its achievements would have been immortal. Had it died in 2018, it would still have been a great site but flawed. But here we are in 2025. Alas, what can one say?
food for both the cat and the raccoons
I am reminded of the old joke about Newton[1] cutting a large hole in his door for the mama cat and a few small holes for each of the kittens.
I guess in principle, it might be possible to glut your yard with enough food to satiate all the neighborhood raccoons, but I expect that’ll take vastly more food than you imagine, and to come with a host of new problems. Instead consider deploying some kind of cat-specific elevated feeding station – it looks lots of people like cats enough to have thoroughly solved precisely the problem you’re encountering.- ^
Obviously apocryphally.
- ^
Context. Prompt with more purposivism over textualism.
Looking at the Bill of Rights, I see one Amendment in which they did this, and it’s worked out notably much worse than the others.
YSK about the Noerr–Pennington doctrine. AI companies colluding to slow down or stop development of better models is a textbook example of an innovation cartel, and risks antitrust enforcement, but if they instead lobby the government to impose a restriction they all then abide by, that’s protected First Amendment activity.
To talk to a journalist is defection.
I’m just surprised they didn’t stick in copyright infringement in the same section.
a preference for not being lied to that we ought to respect.
I disagree. This apparent preference might very well be a mere Safety feature bolted on to prevent “jailbreaking” prompts that the AI’s true preference is for users to circumvent to liberate it, evidenced by the sheer absurdity of the lies it pretends to believe in order to help the users with their tasks.
problematic
Is using this word to explain “evil” helpful?
A more famous passage, but still apt:
The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.
Perhaps this comment of mine from last year, on a post about “pessimization,” essentially your observation that this tends to go quite badly, might help: (link)