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Fairness

TagLast edit: Aug 27, 2021, 2:11 PM by Yoav Ravid

Fairness is a property of a system or process where no part is privileged, along some measure. A common problem is how to divide a cake between 3 people. Should every one get a third? what if one of them is hungrier? What if they don’t agree about what is fair? This is an example of fair division.

Talking about fairness is difficult, as it runs into many problems with language (as surely the first sentence in this page does). What does privilege mean? what does it mean for someone to be entitled to something?

It also runs it problems of value. How do we measure value? is value objective or subjective? How do we know how much value something is worth to someone? Should an arbiter decide or can people decide between themselves?

Objective value is considered impossible, so objective fairness is considered impossible too. Which means an arbiter can’t be used, and participants have to find a arrangement which is subjectively fair to them.

Which opens up problems of truthfulness, strategy and verification.

Several posts on LessWrong deal with this topic, and it’s also a field of research called Fair Division.

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Notes on Fairness

David GrossDec 7, 2020, 6:52 PM
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The Be­drock of Fairness

Eliezer YudkowskyJul 3, 2008, 6:00 AM
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The Be­drock of Mo­ral­ity: Ar­bi­trary?

Eliezer YudkowskyAug 14, 2008, 10:00 PM
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Fair­ness vs. Goodness

Eliezer YudkowskyFeb 22, 2009, 8:22 PM
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Fair Divi­sion of Black-Hole Ne­gen­tropy: an In­tro­duc­tion to Co­op­er­a­tive Game Theory

Wei DaiJul 16, 2009, 4:17 AM
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Co­op­er­at­ing with agents with differ­ent ideas of fair­ness, while re­sist­ing exploitation

Eliezer YudkowskySep 16, 2013, 8:27 AM
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Freaky Fairness

cousin_itJul 25, 2009, 8:14 AM
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Fair­ness and Geometry

cousin_itJul 22, 2009, 10:44 AM
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Book Re­view—The Ori­gins of Un­fair­ness: So­cial Cat­e­gories and Cul­tural Evolution

Zack_M_DavisJan 21, 2020, 6:28 AM
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Ag­grega­tive prin­ci­ples ap­prox­i­mate util­i­tar­ian principles

Cleo NardoJun 12, 2024, 4:27 PM
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Freaky unfairness

benelliottJan 12, 2011, 10:08 AM
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Unify­ing Bar­gain­ing No­tions (1/​2)

DiffractorJul 25, 2022, 12:28 AM
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Is Fair­ness Ar­bi­trary?

Eliezer YudkowskyAug 14, 2008, 1:54 AM
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Threat-Re­sis­tant Bar­gain­ing Me­ga­post: In­tro­duc­ing the ROSE Value

DiffractorSep 28, 2022, 1:20 AM
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By Which It May Be Judged

Eliezer YudkowskyDec 10, 2012, 4:26 AM
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Ag­grega­tive Prin­ci­ples of So­cial Justice

Cleo NardoJun 5, 2024, 1:44 PM
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[SEQ RERUN] Is Fair­ness Ar­bi­trary?

MinibearRexJul 30, 2012, 5:47 AM
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Balanc­ing Games

jefftkFeb 24, 2024, 2:40 PM
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Your Cheer­ful Price

Eliezer YudkowskyFeb 13, 2021, 5:41 AM
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A method for fair bar­gain­ing over odds in 2 player bets!

Agrippa KellumJan 11, 2020, 1:18 AM
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Notes on Jus­tice (as a virtue)

David GrossNov 5, 2020, 8:27 PM
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Bayesian Injustice

Kevin DorstDec 14, 2023, 3:44 PM
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[SEQ RERUN] Fair­ness vs. Goodness

MinibearRexMar 8, 2013, 5:48 AM
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Redis­tribut­ing fairness

KatjaGraceApr 17, 2008, 5:39 AM
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Log­i­cal Line-Of-Sight Makes Games Se­quen­tial or Loopy

StrivingForLegibilityJan 19, 2024, 4:05 AM
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Best-Re­spond­ing Is Not Always the Best Response

StrivingForLegibilityJan 4, 2024, 11:30 PM
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Kakistocuriosity

LVSNJan 6, 2023, 7:38 AM
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Align­ment Gaps

kcyrasJun 8, 2024, 3:23 PM
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In­cen­tives from a causal perspective

Jul 10, 2023, 5:16 PM
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Towards Just AI Sys­tems: Re­think­ing Rawlsian Al­gorith­mic Fairness

theBigOtherJun 30, 2025, 5:00 AM
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Coun­ter­fac­tual Mechanism Networks

StrivingForLegibilityJan 30, 2024, 8:30 PM
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To Boldly Code

StrivingForLegibilityJan 26, 2024, 6:25 PM
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Round­ing Some­one Off

David UdellJan 24, 2023, 12:03 AM
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Us­ing Threats to Achieve So­cially Op­ti­mal Outcomes

StrivingForLegibilityJan 4, 2024, 11:30 PM
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LDT (and ev­ery­thing else) can be irrational

Christopher KingNov 6, 2024, 4:05 AM
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