One Week in the Rat Farm
Hello, LessWrong. This is a personal introduction diary-ish post and it does not have a thesis. I apologise if this isn’t a good fit for the website; I just needed to unload my brain somewhere and this seemed like the spiritually correct place.
I write to you from the Lighthaven campus in fabulous Berkeley, CA. It’s my first time here and I am enchanted.
After one week of full-body immersion, I am completely fascinated with the Rationalist philosophy, culture, community. I do not know whether I ‘belong’ here, as such, and I am writing this post in the hopes of interrogating the feelings I’m experiencing.
After all, why do I feel so positively about the above when I’ve barely scratched the surface and know almost nothing of what it is I’m looking at? Do I just feel warm because of positive vibes and an ornately-decorated campus? Do I just feel alive because coming to Berkeley feels like an adventure compared to the monotonous university-working life that I’ve come from?
In other words: do I like the ideas, or do I just like the vibes?
Maybe. I think that’s a bias worth challenging.
I do not know if this type of post is appropriate for LessWrong. I only created my account this morning (though I’ve lurked LW on and off for the last few weeks).
I hope this post is at least a little interesting for some of you. Think of me as an outsider looking in.
Who am I?
My name is Philip Harker. I am a 23 year old human male; born, raised, and educated in Toronto, ON. I market/PR video games for a living. I have many interests but lately I’m allocating a lot of time and energy to reading and writing science fiction and fantasy.
Why am I at Lighthaven?
I am a Resident at the Inkhaven Writer’s Residency this April. You may have seen some of us floating around on LessWrong and elsewhere in the last week. From 1-30 April we are required to write and publish one 500+ word post per day or get kicked out.
So what am I doing here?
I am an enormous fan of Nicholas Decker’s Homo Economicus and Aella’s Knowingless. I first found out about those people via their excellent and spicy tweets, and I followed their blogs shortly afterwards. I didn’t really know anything about rationalism/postrationalism/LessWrong/Bayesian ethics/AI safety at the time. I just found their ideas interesting. I’ll come back to that.
When I tell people here that my initial point of contact to this world was not Scott Alexander or Gwern, but rather “Aella’s gangbang flowchart” or “Decker’s encounter with the US Secret Service”, it raises eyebrows. I think someone referred to that as “third generation rationalism” or something along those lines, but that may have been derisive.
My good friend and mentor Jonathan Chiang has been to Manifest at Lighthaven once or twice, so he’s presumably on some kind of newsletter. He heard about Inkhaven, he knows I am a writer and I love Decker and Aella, so in January he suggested that I apply. This was the first time I learned about Lighthaven or LessWrong or any of this stuff, really.
I was a bit nervous because my fascination with spaceships and siegecraft and forced human breeding institutions is very personal; not only would I be forced to publish my stuff, but I might also be a lone amateur fictionist among tech bros and AI policy thinkers.
I was wrong on that last concern, but regardless I feel like a fish out of water here at Lighthaven. I suspect my IQ is in the bottom quartile, and I also suspect I’m the most neurotypical, least Rationalist, and most theist of the 55 Residents present.
That said, I am really enjoying my time here. I’m learning some things.
What have I seen?
I think it’s a little bit cringe for me to immediately start gawking at Lighthaven being this sort of utopian garden of reason and intellectualism, walled off from Berkeley, where every nook and corner is home to a fascinating conversation about David Hume or Claude Code.
People have already talked about that.
I am going to instead list some observations that I have made in one week of living and working at Lighthaven. This is not raw data; think of it as a set of working observations that I could maybe form into more substantial theses if I sat and thought about it.
Ratspeak
I don’t know whether this is a rationalist thing in specific or a NorCal/Bay Area/tech bro thing generally, but I have observed a lot of what I am currently calling “Ratspeak”. Fun examples include:
One’s model as shorthand for their understanding/worldview on things (e.g. “interesting, that doesn’t fit my model of how dating works”)
Updating one’s priors as shorthand for potentially changing their worldview on things; particularly updating the first principles on which they reason and make specific conclusions within the domain of a model.
Agency as a personality trait. I read Sammy Cottrell’s excellent post on agency a few weeks ago and I’ve been thinking about it ever since.
“-adjacent” as a hyphenated compound[1] appended to things (e.g. “Rationalist-adjacent, tech-adjacent, healthcare-adjacent).
Salient as “important and engaging idea, usually in the context of writing.”
It’s possible that I understand some or all of these terms incorrectly. But these ideas are so ingrained in the vernacular here that it’s impossible for me not to feel culture shock.
No Punishment for Bad Takes
I come from a fairly left-wing progressive “woke” political background. I’ve grown a little disenchanted with the political left in the last couple of years or so, but for the most part that’s how I politically identify when asked.
In these circles (particularly on Twitter, but also IRL) bad takes are punished. If you broadcast an opinion that is incorrect or harmful or disliked, people are very quick to rush to the conclusion that you are a bad person. I’m sympathetic to people in this sphere for their allergic reactions to people like me; trolls love to frame themselves as “just asking questions”, but it’s so frustrating to have to walk on eggshells whenever I want to get involved in the discourse.
I read the LessWrong new user’s guide this morning and there’s an anecdote about a new user being surprised that a LessWrong comments argument ended with someone changing their mind. I’ve had a few moments like that on Twitter, but Twitter arguments are always cloaked in emotion (usually rage). No one really seems particularly interested in truth-seeking, so arguments there are pointless. They serve only my own masochistic mental masturbation.
I won’t get into details here, but in short, I do not have the same complaints about the arguments I’ve observed at Lighthaven so far. By and large, if you have a bad opinion here you will not be scolded. You will just be told why you are wrong.
Eugenics
“Eugenics” is not a bad word here. I’ve heard at least one person here confirm in so many words that they identify as a eugenicist and are into eugenics ideas.
I could do a whole separate post about “eugenics” as an idea and as a dirty word. I find it interesting. I should make it clear that I do not identify as a eugenicist at all, and I think that self-identification is tolerated here. But this is the first place I’ve been where “I am a eugenicist” is not treated 1:1 as “I am a Nazi”.
I don’t want to give the impression here that I’m shocked. I’m not. I read Decker, as I mentioned. But I am a little surprised by it.
Autism
One of my first texts back home to friends from Inkhaven was “everyone here is so fucking autistic”. That was just my observation, and it was later confirmed to me as more and more people started self-identifying as such.
I’m quite neurotypical. People have joked about me being autistic but I think that’s based on a shallower definition of autism as “person with hobbies and weak social skills”. So as an outsider it’s weird to see such a concentration of autistic people and just how diverse they are. Some are very loud, some are very quiet. Some have deep inner technical brains and often seem lost in thought, while others are very externally excited to talk to you about Costco.
When I brought this up with Advisor Professor Steven Hsu, he agreed. He thinks there’s probably some amount of selection in favour of autistic people for Rationalism generally and the Inkhaven Residency specifically. Useful information, I guess. I only note the autism thing here because I’ve just never seen anything like it.
People Just Say and Do Shit
At the core of what I admire about Nicholas Decker and Aella is that they do not give a single fuck. They say what they think and they don’t soften their language for fear of negative feedback. That conviction takes courage. I would like to embody those traits one day, both creatively and in my day-to-day life.
That philosophy does not seem unique to Decker or Aella. Lots of people here do it. The other night I witnessed an Inkhaven Alumna point-blank tell a Resident “It’s sexually unattractive when you behave like that, you’re acting like a clown.[2]”
People here operate with a sort of baseline fearlessness. People just randomly publicly cuddle with each other (with a baseline of consent and trust, one would assume, but it’s still jarring.) People perform 10 minute plays they wrote 20 minutes ago. People casually drop “yeah I’d like to have 10-20 children ideally”. People are happy to verbally tell you about their experiences with heroin or their careers as an “MMA Dominatrix”.
Granted, part of this may tie into other observations (see Autism). But it’s so refreshing. No one at Lighthaven bullshits.
AI-generated Images
Ubiquitous. The clear majority of people here seem to use and embrace them. AI-generated images and videos mostly leave a bad taste in my mouth, and I’m hardly alone in that. My desired audience in particular— SFF nerds back home— have pretty strong anti-AI sentiment, and for many reasons rational and irrational I share that sentiment.
Don’t get me wrong, I use Claude. I think it’s incredible, but I still think that I’m a better writer than Claude is on the whole. But I do not use AI-generated images, I think they look cheap and I think that your typical sci-fi reader is going to see an AI-generated thumbnail on a post and assume the entire post was written by ChatGPT. I can’t really blame them for thinking that.
But yes, the presence of AI-generated images on the majority of posts at Inkhaven so far is very interesting to me. For my stories about hackers and dragons, it really would be useful to have quickly-iterated free images to use as thumbnails, but I resist, through some combination of personal bias and mindfulness of the SFF community. Others here don’t seem to care about that.
Children and Families
When I think of a “writer’s residency” ala Past Lives (2023), I have this bias that people who call themselves “writers” and do hardcore writer-ish things like attend a month-long residency are childless and often single people. The types who do child-free weddings.
There’s a bit of romance in the idea of writers as tortured lonely souls who cut themselves off from society. But on the contrary, many of the Team, Advisors, and Residents have brought their spouses and small to medium-sized children.
I’m not really a “pro-natalist” in the philosophical sense[3]. But I am extremely skeptical of anti-children, anti-natalist vibes in the public discourse.
It’s a weird and tiny thing, but the presence of families here makes Lighthaven feel so much more alive.
Really Excellent Vibes
This final observation is the crux of my post. After one week here, I think the vibes at Lighthaven are exceptional. People are highly intelligent but not assholes about it.
Last night I attended an open mic night. I did not perform, I didn’t engage much with the other spectators, I was mostly just sitting and absorbing. And it was wonderful. Euphoric. I lack the words to describe it exactly, and I definitely lack the insight to understand why it felt so awesome. But it did.
But given everything that I have observed at Lighthaven— the good, the neutral, and the bad— does it make sense that I feel so positively about it? Do I feel at home because the vibes are good, or are the vibes good because I feel at home?
What is the point of this post?
I’m not entirely sure.[4]
I understand that my brain is currently being flooded with reward chemicals due to the sheer novelty of the situation. For years I was a depressed, anxious, broke, lonely student in Toronto. All of a sudden I have been whisked away to paradise, permitted to write about and talk about whatever I want, and there’s cheap wine and warm weather and Rob Miles hanging around (!!!) and a catgirl (???) and free Oreos in the kitchen.
So when I think to myself “yes, this is awesome, I want to be a Rationalist, I want to get on LessWrong, I want to move to a Berkeley flop house”, I need to interrogate that. I need to figure out whether what I enjoy are the tenets of the philosophy, culture, and community or the vibes of the Inkhaven Writer’s Residency.
This post is my attempt to do so.
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IDK what you would call “-adjacent” grammatically, in the way you might say “looks-maxxed” or “California-pilled”. Claude says it’s a hyphenated compound, whatever that means.
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In the Alumna’s defence, the Resident had already been asking for advice with women and dating. But man, that was harsh.
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I am a Catholic, though, so all my friends assume that I’m a pro-natalist. The jokes are funny. But it’s worth considering that pro-natalists do not themselves need to aspire to have children, and vice versa.
Personally I might not even get married.
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The cynic may argue that I’m only writing this post because I need to make a post daily for Inkhaven; I’ll accept that argument but for the record I may not even submit this post for my Inkhaven requirement. I have a book review to write today. Maybe this can be a bonus post?
A fellow Resident and I came to the conclusion the other day that if we’re going to write about writing/Inkhaven/Lighthaven it’s probably best kept to bonus “wasted” posts. I’d feel dissatisfied if I leave the Residency and realise that I was basically just diary blogging about the Residency for 8⁄30 days of the Residency.
don’t move to a berkeley flop house we have rationality at home I swear 😭
Hey Phillip! I wanted to say that I quite enjoyed reading this, as a fellow Catholic and fairly neurotypical (I think??) person. Having been around this scene for a few years now, it’s fun to find out what strikes newcomers as noteworthy; I’m excited for the rest of your Inkhaven writings!
This is so cool. I wish I could be there.
I guess the the first generation found Yudkowsky at Overcoming Bias, the second generation found Scott Alexander at Slate Star Codex, and the third generation found Aella at Substack.
You understood all the terms correctly.
I guess mild autism (asperger) generally correlates with taking ideas seriously, and doing things outside of what is considered normal.
Or, from the opposite perspective, being a normie correlates with carefully doing and saying things that people in your peer group do.
Within the community. You don’t know whether they act the same way outside. It is easier (I am not saying always easy) to have courage when you feel safe.
I guess instinctively, families make a group feel like a tribe, as opposed to a task force.
Yep. I hesitated how to say this, especially after you wrote such a nice blog, but...
...there is a difference between being a rationalist, and liking to hang out with rationalists.
A good example is the discussion forum at Astral Codex Ten—a group of people who like to read texts of Scott Alexander, who is a rationalist, but maybe 1⁄3 of the blog readers are. Which is OK, if that is OK for Scott (and it seems that it is), but sometimes it creates a confusion when someone at ACX talks about “rationalists” and actually means “readers of ACX”. (As in “why do rationalists say X?” because there were a few comments saying X, but the person does not bother to check whether the authors of those comments identify as rationalists.)
Analogically, I used to hang out with a group of Christians, but I was never religious myself. I liked some of the vibes, but I couldn’t take the stories about the supernatural seriously, and I was aware how much “what Bible says” is their selective reading (because it obviously said different things to different groups—which is why I liked this specific group, not Christianity in general).
I’ve seen that as well, multiple times. It’s worth mentioning that those people usually mean something different by eugenics than, for example, the average German. I think calling that cluster of ideas eugenics serves as a social signal.
Excerpt from my rant on this topic: “I think that the term mainly serves as a social signal. In this community, decoupling is a highly valued social norm. Contextualizing, on the other hand, is something for the weak, conventional or social justice minded. Yes, eugenics is a shorthand for cutting-edge reproductive and genetic technologies. But that can’t be the main purpose. It would be easy enough to use a different shorthand. There is, however, something unique that eugenics has to offer. It is a social repellent for those who are clinging “too tightly” to the historical context. Behind this hides an implicit insistence—you should give the benefit of the doubt to an otherwise reasonable person who seems to have uttered something unthinkable.
On some level, I am sympathetic to this social maneuver. It is draining to constantly be on guard because you don’t want to alienate a listener. Why not just shoo away heavy contextualizers? On another level, I’m annoyed. Why make it harder for people to listen to you on purpose? Even if they are normies! It’s so easy to misunderstand each other, even with the best intentions on all sides. If you explained your values and ideas patiently, your hot takes might morph into lukewarm opinions. Yes, people will call you a Nazi if you refer to yourself as a ‘eugenicist’. They will not give you a chance to explain, and to some extent that’s on them. But it’s you who made it easy for them to do so.”
Full rant here.
Oh my God Delusion. 🤯 This is your humble attempt to understand something, your first try? If you had told me you spent years, and billions of LLM tokens, trying your hardest to craft the very best LessWrong post you possibly could, I would have believed you.
Thank you SO MUCH!!
You’re welcome! (?) Sorry, Poe’s law, not sure if you are being sarcastic or not (ᵕ—ᴗ—)
Not sarcastic. Thank you sincerely for brightening my day.