The Compliment Sandwich đ„Ș aka: How to criticize a normie without making them upset.
Note. The comments on this post contain excellent discussion that youâll want to read if you plan to use this technique. I hadnât realised how widespread the idea was.
This valuable nugget was given to me by an individual working in advertising. At the time, I was 16, posting on my local subreddit, hoping to find someone who could advise me on a film making career path. This individual kindly took the time to sit me down at a barâas I wore my school uniformâand detail everything I would need to do to be able to make films professionally. Among many insights I am truly grateful for was the Sandwich. As with many metaphorical sandwiches, the compliment sandwich is named incorrectly. It should really be called the criticism sandwich.
Recipe:
Youâll need:
2 compliments (The Bread)
1 Critique (The Filling)
Instructions:
Start with a compliment. Even the worst of things have a silver lining; youâll need to find it and comment on it.
Now provide the critique. It can be more brutal than a lone critique because the blow was softened by your first compliment.
Finish off with your second compliment. Make it flow naturally from the critique if you can, something like âOh, but I almost forgot to mention, I love how you...â
Final Thoughts
This isnât a technique to be used with rationalists. This is a normie communication protocol. It also works well with kids, teens, and people in a bad state of mind.
I hope the compliment sandwich is a valuable piece in your lunch box 𧰠going forward. Bon appétit.
The problem with that technique is that it comes off as unbearably patronizing to a pretty large fraction of the people who actually notice that youâre doing it. Itâs a thing that every first-line corporate manager learns, and it gets really obnoxious after a while. So you have to judge your audience well.
I think youâre in peril of misjudging the audience if you routinely divide the world into ânormiesâ and ârationalistsâ.
Once I had several positive things to say to a very good CEO. When I was done, he just waited. He was so used to receiving compliment sandwiches that he just assumed my compliment would be followed by a criticism.
Now we need to develop an opposite art, how to say positive things about people who are too used to the sandwich method. My proposal:
say shortly something unimportant but positive (they are not listening carefully anyway, just waiting for the other shoe to drop)
say something unimportant but negative
proceed to the compliment you wanted to give
You can just say the actual criticism in a constructive way. Or if you donât know how to, just askââhey I have some feedback to give that I think would help, but I donât know how to say it without it potentially sounding badâcan I tell you and you know I donât dislike you and I donât mean to be disrespectful?â and respect it if they say no, theyâre not interested.
I think the complement sandwich can be useful as a stepping stone to good communication. That said, I think of it as a narrow formulation of a more general (and less precisely defined) approach to conversation that I might point to with phrases like âwork with people where they are atâ and âbe aware of the emotions that your words induce in other peopleâ. There was an article on LessWrong that I canât find, arguing that clear communication is worded to pre-emptively avoid likely misunderstandings and misconceptions. The idea Iâm pointing to is like that, but concerning the emotional interpretation of your words rather than the literal meaning. I think this can apply just as much to the rationalist community as to any other community (although I havenât had any conversations with rationalists so I donât know for sure).
Like literary and conversational techniques in general, if they are followed as a hard rule then they risk coming across as formulaic and hence inauthentic. However I can imagine that it might be useful to adopt the complement sandwich as a rule until you gain a deeper understanding of the underlying mechanics.
Does this still work? Iâve often heard it referred to as the âshit sandwich methodâ (by STEMish non-rationalists), so I wonder if people are sufficiently inoculated to it for it to no longer work
regardless of if it works, I think itâs disrespectful for being manipulative at worst and wasting the persons time at best.
Some people in the comments donât like this idea, but I think itâs reasonable. Lots of people believe that they can easily take criticism with no need for politeness, but the truth is it affects them and they still feel a little bit sour inside. Weâre all human.
I do think the tone of you post could be a little better. These somewhat dishonest politenesses are at best a necessary evil, not a clever formula to be proud of! If you do them, you should be very meek and humble about it, and definitely not feeling like youâre smarter (or superior). jbash is right that it can seem unbearably patronizing.
The Final Thoughts make it sound like this is a technique which smart people should use on those lower than them, and somehow gives me a âplaying with people is funâ vibe. This may irritate people who already dislike corporate speak.
Then again, one good thing about this idea is that it reminds you to talk about and think about good things (regarding a person and their efforts). Sometimes itâs all too easy to take for granted the good intentions of people, when youâre preoccupied by the disagreements. Youâve got my upvote.
When I was in high school I was drum major of the marching band, they sent us to a week long âleadership campâ training, and this was how they recommended giving criticism. Praise-correction-praise. It can be done well, but is much more often done poorly. Basically, itâs level-1 advice that needs to be executed very well or used on an audience that isnât really free to complain much about it, and by the time you are able to do so skill-wise, there are better methods available.
Iâd say itâs level-1 advice that is better than the level-0 move of just criticizing and never praising, which is indeed a failure case people can fall into. When people notice youâre doing it or if you execute it poorly it can come off badly, though I think still better than the level-0 failure itâs meant to fix.