fyi, I am a girl and I also find the “Hot girls excite me!” line to be off-putting and it makes me go ugh. For me it isn’t that it makes me think ogling women is a big hobby of yours, but rather that you mostly value women for their “hotness”. And the term “hot” means a specific kind of attractiveness that is very expensive and high effort (as opposed to “cute”, “pretty”, “attractive”, etc). So it means you prefer women who spend a lot of time and effort on their appearances rather than liking women as people. There is more reasons it’s uncomfortable, but that’s my initial 10 cents.
I felt a lot of internal resistance and push back when reading this. I agree that this is NOT WHAT YOU SAID, but I feel like there is already a lot of memery and pressure to let the long term / Mission folks be social free riders and leeches in every other part of their lives and I don’t like it. My brain pattern matched this post into that meme space.
Cross-posted from FB:
During the 872 day long Siege of Leningrad, almost a million people died, mostly of starvation. Twelve of those people died while surrounded by food they refused to eat. They were the scientists and staff at the Institute of Plant Study, a seed bank containing the life’s work of Nikolai Vavilov.
Vavilov had already starved to death in a Soviet gulag, for holding to Mendelian genetic theory, as opposed to the false-but-government-endorsed Lysenkoism. It wasn’t just a principled stand either. Vavilov knew that the truth of genetics could help them feed the country with better crops, while the false theories would fail.
Vavilov’s absence left just his workers to guard the seed banks from destruction. They did their best, knowing that the seeds would be instrumental in rebuilding after the war. But the majority of the seeds still rotted, even as they were protected from the starving masses outside their door.
The workers starved rather than eat the seeds, but still most the seeds were lost.
That may make it seem like all a waste, but what did survive proved to be invaluable. Today 80% of Russia’s cropland is growing the descendants of the seeds from the Institute. Many millions, maybe even a billion people are alive because of the sacrifices of Vavilov and his workers.
Like many others, I’m currently fasting in honor of Vavilov Day. While it’s officially a one day fast, I’m vaguely aiming to make it to Saturday, which would make it my longest fast yet.
Team up with friends who already play DnD or write glowfic. Less scalable but can grab the $20k.
Similarly, if you’re unemployed/ have lots of free time just sit down and write it yourself.
Recruit from a local University. This can be very scalable if you e.g. know the creative writing professor.
Recruit from roleplaying groups or online roleplaying forums. Requires a bit more filtering than the above.
Recruit from fiverr or similar. Requires lots of initial filtering but can end up with low price. Create a series of increasingly less automated tasks as a filter (eg start with a multiple choice quiz that’s automatically graded)
Ask a person who already does this kind of thing how they would go about it.
I don’t want to name names publicly here, but post on BR, or talk to MR to use his team.
Use the volunteers who are posting here.
Show this post to a whole bunch of people who you think might want to grab the $20k as individuals. Let them know that if enough of them make the $20k thing that you will all team up to churn out the $1m thing, split proportionally.
I can’t tell if it is purposeful that this is set up in an adversarial/ winner-take-all kind of way. It’s really off-putting to me, and seems to encourage everyone being out for themselves, rather than collaboration. Particularly for such an inherently collaborative product. Maybe Nate and Eliezer just expect cooperation to fail?
Anyways, if people DO want to attempt some kind of collaboration… EDIT- Don’t join my Facebook group, join plex’s Discord linked in the comment below instead
Multiple times on this thread I’ve seen you make the point about figuring out what responsibility should fall on Geoff, and what should be attributed to his underlings.
I just want to point out that it is a pattern for powerful bad actors to be VERY GOOD at never explicitly giving a command for a bad thing to happen, while still managing to get all their followers on board and doing the bad thing that they only hinted at/ set up incentive structures for, etc.
(“So Kids Will Learn” is old enough that I expect lots of it too be mostly debunked growth mindset and the like, but I expect will still hold valuable bits)
Thank you! There is actually a whole bunch of similar books by the Fabers such as “How to Talk So Kids Will Learn” and “How To Talk When Kids Won’t Listen.”
I plan on listening to a few more in the next year or so.
I really enjoyed this book review and appreciated how well-written it was. It captured my attention and didn’t feel like a slog to get through at all.
If I were to make a suggestion, it would be to think of some question you can ask that can spark discussion. After reading this review I feel like I gained knowledge, but don’t feel like I have any good handles to comment about it. (to be fair, I tried to add some comment-affordances to my book review and also didn’t get any responses, so maybe this advice is not actually great)
This feels like opinion stated as fact.
I have some strong disagreements with what you say, but I recognize that it may be true for some people. It feels like you’re trying to universalize your own opinion / experiences.
I’m saying it’s $25k PER CYCLE. (granted, this is Bay Area prices, but still)
IVF requires multiple other expenses that aren’t the fertilization itself. These other expenses include about $5-6k of injectable drugs that stimulate egg production, and about $6000 for the implantation.
I agree. I think the IVF number is just plain wrong. I’m getting ready to have IVF myself and the total bill will be well over $25k even if we succeed in the first round, which is only 65% likely.
Maybe he researched the cost of “IVF” itself, but didn’t think to add on the cost of implantation, injectable drugs, etc. which is a huge percentage of the cost.
I am rather good at not applying judgment to e.g. children or dogs, but relatedly have a very strong intuitive agent /patient split, which I understand doesn’t actually match reality.
At the same time, I am rightfully frustrated by the self-serving picking and choosing of when to use an agentic frame v when to use a moral patient frame.
This is great and I want more.
I really resonated with a part of it. Building up a scaffolding of “morality” or “self-righteous Protestant work ethic” both allows me to function in a reasonable way at all, but also has a side effect of feeling strongly morally judgmental towards others. I do think a large underlining part of that is this need-to-distance.
Low-level specific recommendation: Here is a really great calculator for splitting rents for different rooms. You enter in some basic info (total rent, number of rooms), and it continuously adjust room rents and asks individuals what their preferred room would be at different rent splits until it finds a rent split at which everyone would prefer different rooms. You can keep running it a few rounds past that to refine the answer more too. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/science/rent-division-calculator.html
I know it’s a decade old now, but I still love Vi Hart’s stuff on YouTube (less complex topics than the ones you listed though)
The Existential Giraffe is a pretty amusing primer on Cartesian doubt, but I don’t know how much a young kid actually “gets” of it. (But I’ve still had kids who particularly enjoy it as a book).
It has such entertaining lines as “The possibility of not really existing made Sammy very, very sad.”
The same author also wrote the Moribund Mouse (a mouse learns he is going to die and so finally starts “living” but then goes back to his boring cubicle life when he learns the doctor was lying) and the Perspicacious Penguin (a penguin really likes green even though God himself has proclaimed that blue is superior)
Frog and Toad books are among my favorites.
I am super-duper surprised she says it took a few weeks to teach the Outside button! It took about… 15 minutes to teach my dog to use her Food bell. And then the Outside bell and Treat bells were similarly fast. I don’t think button pressing is inherently harder than bell ringing, so that shouldn’t make a difference. I guess if the dog was starting at zero training it would take two weeks. (Robin already knew how to Target an item, which she learned after learning hand Touch, which she learned as part of the process of teaching how clicker-like training with positive reinforcers works in the first place. )I can imagine abstract words like “Tomorrow” and “Where” taking a whole lot longer, but the words that are just ways to obtain concrete things are extremely easy to teach. Outside bells are a very well-known and frequently-done thing. Look them up on Amazon and you’ll see about 20 options for sale.