The underclass is coming from somewhere, even with compulsory education.
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What is missing where? Some countries allow homeschooling. Some countries allow school choice. Etc.
If the problem is that School is Prison, having a choice of prison is not a solution.
The “bottom 20%” may continue using the old decrepit system, or just quit and do better things
Will they have the option to do nothing?
If you put people in a place where they’re taught to learn from being taught, how can you expect them to be able to learn for themselves?
It didn’t stop me being able to self teach.
Context is important. If you publish something without comment or counterpoint, you’re hinting that it’s to be taken as true.
The does everything wrong by the usual standards of rational epistemology, but will be warmly received anyway.
Wherever two or three Rationalists are gathered together, they will moan about the education system. But not in a very rational way. It’s a topic that rationalists are predictably irrational about. They don’t build up a step by step fact based critique, they make sweeping ,emotive claims about how generally terrible it is.
The hard problem of education is how to educate everybody. (Or what to do with them otherwise) That’s the problem governments face. It’s easy for smart people to come up with educational methods that work for smart people. Smart people can educate themselves with a library and a computer. That’s good enough for the top 20% , but what about the bottom 20%, who aren’t naturally academic, and don’t have parents capable of home schooling? I have heard no suggestion from the rationalsphere.
If you argue with Marxists, post-modernists, or the Woke, you’ll similarly find that, for every solid argument you have that proves a belief of theirs is wrong, they have some assumptions which to them justify dismissing your argument
They might well say the same about you. All arguments are based on fundamental assumptions that are necessarily unproven.
Is the set of real numbers simple or complex? What information does it contain? What information doesnt it contain?
until then the results will generally work in practice.
Doesn’t really contradict what I am saying. In theory, I am saying, you can’t exclude mysterious extra variables...but in practice that often doesn’t matter, as you are saying.
The key to answering that question is determinism. If the system’s behavior can be predicted perfectly, then there is no mystery left to explain, no information left which some unknown variable could provide
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What matters is local determinism. You need to show that behaviour is predictable from factors under your control. If local determinism fails, it is hard to tell whether locality or determinism failed individually.
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And showing that a system’s behaviour is predictable when N factors are held constant by the experimenter doesn’t show that those are the only ones it is conditionally dependent one. Its behaviour might counterfactually depend on factors which the experimenter did not vary and which did not naturally change over the course of the experiment. In general, you can’t exclude mysterious extra variables.
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What use is that?
the Sensemaking scene—however vaguely defined
It hasn’t been defined at all, even vaguely.
It’s mostly this.
Even the most earnest effort, though, will face the challenge that it’s hard to guess which argument you don’t personally like is most likely to land with someone of a very different ideological persuasion
Which means that … you probably don’t even have good weapons, because it so difficult to build them.
And it still doesn’t follow from that , that anything untoward is going on.
The events match the narrative where the evil PMCs screw everyone else over, but they also match the narrative where lockdowns are the best solution for everybody.
So you still need to disprove that.
If the physics map doesn’t imply the mind map (because of the zombie argument, the Mary’s room argument, etc.), then how do you come to know about the mind map?
Direct evidence. That’s the starting point of the whole thing. People think that they have qualia because it seems to them that they do.
What is the version of this story for the mind map, once we assume that the mind map has contents that have no causal effect on the physical world?
I’m not assuming that. I’m arguing against epiphenomenalism.
So I am saying that the mental is causal, but I am not saying that it is a kind of physical causality, as per reductive physicalism. Reductive physicalism is false because consciousness is irreducible, as you agree. Since mental causation isn’t a kind of physical causation, I don’t have to give a physical account if it.
And I am further not saying that the physical and mental are two separate ontologcal domains, two separate territories. I am talking about maps, not territories.
Without ontologcal dualism, there are no issues of overdetermination or interaction.
If you start from the assumption that only “outside”—third person ,objective—evidence counts , then it is easy to come to the conclusion that only physical causation counts.
unprecedented
The unprecedented part is the global,not the lockdowns. Staying inside during plagues is well attested historically.
But to develop that account, further nuances need to be brought out
Maybe, you are not really saying what is is wrong with the simple account. You keep harping on about the professional managerial classes, but you still don’t have evidence that lockdowns are benefitting them, or that they are not benefitting the relatives of poorer people.
Wanting to make sacrifices to protect your elderly relatives is not weird.
Well, if we reject that claim, then we’re kinda stuck saying that if there are qualia, they are somewhere to be found within that chain of causation. And if there’s nothing to be found in the chain of causation that looks like qualia,
Looks from the inside. or looks from the outside?
Or...liberal democracy has spread , as other systems have failed. But maybe liberal democracy isnt good enough to count as really awesome.