Name: Alex Hedtke Age: 27
Came here via HPMOR, stayed for the rationality. Organizer for the Kansas City Rationalists. Founder and co-organizer for Kansas City Effective Altruism. Founder and co-CEO of ‘The Guild of the ROSE’.
Name: Alex Hedtke Age: 27
Came here via HPMOR, stayed for the rationality. Organizer for the Kansas City Rationalists. Founder and co-organizer for Kansas City Effective Altruism. Founder and co-CEO of ‘The Guild of the ROSE’.
CEO of the Guild of the ROSE here. This is an excellent writeup, and I appreciate the shoutout. You’ve correctly identified that our current structure lends itself more towards a university-like environment, but we have always aspired for that to just be one piece of the Guild. We are also interested in being a more open-ended community and providing the things you describe.
Right now, we are limited by funds and time. We have been working on this project for several years without pay, and so we have had to severely restrict what we focus on. If anyone wants to use us for the aspirations outlined in this post, let us know and we will happily lend ourselves to this mission.
What are the dimensions of the frames you used? Or better yet, do you have an amazon link to them?
Use this link if you are having trouble getting in: https://app.gather.town/app/aPVfK3G76UukgiHx/lesswrong-campus
For sure!
This article touches on most of it: https://guildoftherose.org/articles/structure-of-the-guild
Hi! CEO here.
I would re-frame the conversation by saying everyone has things that are already impressive about them, but they also have weaknesses that prevent them from fulfilling their individual potential. The approach ROSE is taking is to help people shore up their weaknesses, leaving them only with strengths. To this end, we have already begun to succeed.
We have members who have made significant life decisions with the help of our Practical Decision Making course. We have helped people learn how to learn new skills more efficiently with our Meta-Learning course. We have helped people learn how to create faster and stronger relationships.
We have built ROSE to learn from the previous failed attempts at this. We have inoculated ourselves from the cultishness of the likes of Leverage. We have made ourselves more accessible and useful than the fleeting, expensive, and geographically-bound CFAR workshops.
Even if we dissolve ROSE tomorrow, I already consider it a success that others can continue to learn from and iterate on.
If anyone has any questions, I am co-CEO of ROSE and will be periodically checking these comments. :)
“God of the EA community”? The majority of my city’s EA community doesn’t even know who Yudkowsky is, and of the few who do most have ambivalent opinions of him.
The primary goal of this document is to articulate my personal moral philosophy, and I use the Mohism branding because it has strong corollaries to said moral philosophy, but otherwise I am reinventing it from scratch.
I do think that a lot of the core tenets are widely (if subconsciously) held. As for the ones that aren’t widely held, I personally think they should be. But, like any good Neo-Mohist, I’m willing to be convinced otherwise. ;)
The phrasing of this as a philosophy for others to adopt is mostly an aesthetic decision, a reframing to help me look at it more critically.
Thanks for the feedback!
Basing it on Mohism is more of an aesthetic decision than anything; if classical Mohism has an issue then Neo-Mohism should set out to solve it. :)
I think there’s a difference between “no fixed standards” and “the ability to update standards in light of new evidence”. Neo-Mohism is definitely about “strong opinions, weakly held” kind of thing. The standards it sets forth are only to be overturned by failing a test, and until then should be treated as the best answer so far.
If you would like to attend a Guild mixer to meet the Council and some of the students, come join us saturday! We expect to do this on a monthly or quarterly basis.
https://bit.ly/3lOco5O
Never mind, I found your calendly. Got us scheduled for friday. :)
I would like to get set up! :)
Please note that we have added a Google Form for registration, to make sure we have enough food.
No, the best way to convince me is to show me data. Evidence I can actually update on, instead of self-reporting on results that may be poisoned by motivated reasoning, or any number of other biases. Data I can show to people who know what they are talking about, that they will take seriously.
I see Bayesian Rationality as a methodology as much as it is a calculation. It’s being aware of our own prior beliefs, the confidence intervals of those beliefs, keeping those priors as close to the base rates as possible, being cognizant of how our biases can influence our perception of all this, trying to mitigate the effects of those biases, and updating based on the strength of evidence.
I’m trying to get better at math so I can do better calculations. It’s a major flaw in my technique I acknowledge and am trying to change.
But as you noted earlier, none of this answers my question. If I am not currently practicing your art, and you believe your art is good, what evidence do you have to support that claim?
A strong correlation between adopting the virtues and established methods of rationality, and an increased quality of life, but yeah; more handwavey. I don’t even know what calculations could be made. That’s sorta why I’m here.
Yes, but they could all be explained by the fact I just sat down and bothered to think about the problem, which wouldn’t exactly be an amazing endorsement of rationality as a whole.
I also don’t look at rationality as merely a set of tools; it’s an entire worldview that emphasizes curiosity and a desire to know the truth. If it does improve lives, it might very well simply be making our thinking more robust and streamlined. If so, I wouldn’t know how to falsify or quantify that.
I ask the question this way to hopefully avoid stepping on toes. I’m fully open to the idea that the answer is “we have none”. Also, I am primarily addressing the people who are making a claim. I am not necessarily making a claim myself.
I’m convinced mostly due to its effects on my own life, as stated in the opening paragraph. But I’m unsure of how to test and demonstrate that claim. My question is for my benefit as well as others.
Is it possible to crowdfund the necessary expenses to get this onto Spotify? Are there any significant potential licensing issues?