Any alternatives in mind?
The first thing that comes to mind is having no masthead image. Any image will presumably be misunderstood by some fraction of visitors, but the text alone is very clear. I can see why people like the current image; perhaps a solution is to replace it with a solid color for people arriving from Google or StumbleUpon.
To be fair, I don’t think any of us were outraged at you. I think we were all trying to understand where exactly you make the distinction.
I find I think the hardest (i.e. think the most differently from normal, habitual thought) when I’m pushed right to where I draw choice-boundaries.
And actually I never quite wrapped my head around the basis of your view (I’m new to thinking about those things in such depth, since I’ve been surrounded by people who think like me). I’d like to continue the conversation sometime, in a more low-key environment.
Oh, and “Hi.” I’m a lurker.
I don’t think so, but I’m not sure. I just happened to be there for the day, I’m not a resident of the house.
Thanks Alexandros, this was well articulated.
Beyond PageRank, I feel this pattern has applicability in many areas of everyday life, especially those related to large organizations, such as employers judging potential employees by the name of the university they attended...
So a person who goes to a prestigious school and games the system in order to graduate [without actually getting smarter] is something of a “spam worker.” The OBP process is incentivizing earning a degree from a good school, and taking the emphasis off of getting smart.
I’d spent plenty of time thinking about SEO, and plenty of time thinking about people seeking prestige via academic institutions, but has never noticed the parallel.
...I have more written material on this subject, especially on possible methods of counteracting this effect...
I would be interested in hearing about those methods. I’m in the business of producing legitimate news (feel funny calling it “content”), and am unhappy with the amount of time I must spend making sure my website stays out of the false negative space.
Also, I wonder if the methods you have thought of would also apply to these parallel situations in society.
A similar graph is here.
The new XKCD is highly relevant.
Okay, middle school students, it’s the first Tuesday in February.
This means that by law and custom, we must spend the morning reading though the Wikipedia article List of Common Misconceptions, so you can spend the rest of your lives being a little less wrong.
The guests at every party you’ll ever attend thank us in advance.
Subtext: I wish I lived in this universe.
Small correction: I actually found Everyman 3 to be a very doable schedule at Burning Man. It’s desirable to stay up really late since lots of neat stuff happens at night, and it’s desirable to not need to sleep past 10am since it gets very hot. So a 3 hour core from 6-9am plus a few opportunistic naps in the shade is an excellent solution. Both Cathleen (who runs operations at Leverage) and I were on duty supporting Paradigm, the effective altruist camp, most of the week, and I think it’s fair to say the quality of experience the camp achieved was due in no small part to the long hours we were able to put in.
The hard part has actually been sticking to the diet after the event, due to being quite sick for a while.
Looking forward to publishing data as soon as we have the time. As a preview, since it doesn’t take any time, here’s a plot of my sleep since starting the experiment. The no data part is Burning Man, which was a similar distribution to the period right before it.
The Zeo. It isn’t designed to handle short naps, so you have to manually copy down the data right after a nap into a spreadsheet or notebook or something.
The graph is a little misleading on how long it takes to recover, I’d say, since the falling out part was due to being quite sick. There is also an important additional note, which is that on E3 so far, I’m getting way less REM than I used to get with normal sleep (see plot of my baseline data below). As I eventually concluded with Uberman, it really seems like the standard E3 schedule has no possible way of giving me the amount of REM that I used to get (over two hours per night on nights when I would sleep 8-8.5 hours and feel well rested), so I’m going to test a diet that will take 5.5 hours rather than 4, but will have a legitimate chance of matching my baseline numbers for REM and SWS (slow wave sleep). This would beat my normal sleep time goal of 8 hours by 2.5 hours a day, but would include lots of naps, so it’s yet to be seen if it is worth it. It will come down to whether I turn out to be able to take advantage of several 30-60 minute waking periods that are part of the rotation I’m going to try.
I just meant the schedule. I’ve taken to calling it a diet since I’m avoiding it sortof the way people do with food.
Yes, but probably not advertised publicly. It will be Sunday evening. Details will be announced at the event, so ask someone who is there if you aren’t.
Sorry about that. We will do our best to announce further in advance, since we really would like to accommodate people who are booked very far ahead of time.
This post is the most comprehensive answer to the question “what was really going on at Leverage Research” anyone has ever given, and that question has been of interest to many in the LW community. I’m happy to see it’s been nominated for the year-end review; thank you to whomever did that!
The map image in the masthead confused me when I found LW, and might reduce the probability that casual Web-browsing would-be-rationalists would take the time to understand what LW actually is before moving on.
I’m new to the community; this post may not be structured like the ones you’re used to. Bear with me.
If LW is anything like the few sites whose analytics numbers I’ve seen, a significant portion of traffic comes from Web searches (I would wildly guess 10-30% of their pageviews). According to the analytics I’ve seen on my own site, out of those landings from Google et. al., many are likely to stay only for a few seconds, presumably trying to see if they’ve found what they’re looking for.
[In my opinion] the name, small grey welcome box for new readers, and the tagline under the logo collectively do a good job of explaining what LW is, even for people who aren’t familiar with any related terminology or concepts. The image of a map in the background, [in my opinion], does not. When I first arrived I thought for a few moments it was a site about maps. I ended up reading enough to stick around, but I wonder if some don’t.
I would like to ask people who didn’t understand what the site was about and didn’t return to LW if the image was the reason… but we’ll never hear from them. So instead, I invite people here to chime in about whether or not the image deterred them at first, and whether it is something worth re-thinking.
[Whether this potential deterrent is bad is a separate question; I’m just curious about whether it even is a deterrent. I can see arguments for trying to deter people (or certain types of people) intentionally, but I suppose that’s irrelevant if the image doesn’t affect the probability that first-time readers will return.]