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Honestly, you get brownie points just for the low-inhibness required to wear a mask like that in public lol
It’s so far out of what’s possible that there’s really no information available about how one should or could react.
Fine, if Bob gets an offer that makes his life 1% better at the cost of the lives of everyone else being much worser. Would you be able to have person A’s best interest at heart if you were to tell him to not take that offer.
Mind responding to:
For example, it’s hard to argue someone has your best interest at heart if they advise you to say no to the following:
Suppose that an advanced team of neuroscientists and computer scientists could hook your brain up to a machine that gave you maximal, beyond-orgasmic pleasure for eternity. Then they will blast you and the pleasure machine into deep space at near light-speed so that you could never be interfered with but at the cost of a billion innocent lives. Would you let them do this for you?
As you didn’t respond to my post despite commenting
Do you believe that what you wrote might convince something who’s currently not maximizing their own happiness?
I do, do you share the same world-view I shared?
If you’re going to down-vote tell me why
Another stance is that it would suck to die the day before AI makes us immortal (like how Bryan Johnson main motivation for maximizing his lifespan is due to this). Hence trying to delay AI advancement is opposed
Good luck but I highly doubt Cloves will make-up for a nicotine addiction
It is quite inefficient, I remember looking at:
https://polymarket.com/event/biden-seen-in-public-by-fridayhttps://polymarket.com/event/biden-seen-in-public-before-june
https://polymarket.com/event/biden-seen-in-public-by-friday-may-30
After video footage of him out in public was released (was quite obvious it wasn’t fake & that it was new footage, etc) and it took quite a while (I believe almost one hour and some change for >90% YES) for the markets to react. While if it was the stock market it would instantly react.
It’s funny how I almost didn’t post this because I thought it was so obvious but turns out everyone disagrees with me but you lol
Not sure why you choose Asperger’s as they have average or above average intelligence and same with ADHD followed by they work hard; something ADHD constrains.
In your hypothetical I’d imagine it’s quite high although putting an exact number would be difficult. By the way, I believe that most people believe by business I am referring to a physical business such as a restaurant and businesses with a high capital cost. That’s not what I am referring to, programming is more like what I am referring to.
I don’t see why they would give up if they are giving 8 hours a day of actual work they’re bound to be successful assuming they don’t end up with catastrophic luck. Lets say you wind up getting quite good at coding in 3 months of coding for 8 hours a day. Why wouldn’t you than be able to leverage that skill into coding whatever and monetizing it?
Ok screw that example, Just in college, not in high school or anything extra. If you spend 40 hours a week on coursework, for 30 weeks a year (2 semesters a year − 15 weeks per semester) for 4 years. You dedicate (40 hours*30 weeks)(4 years) = 4800 hours just to college.
Which is 600 days of 8 hours of work on a business. Instead of going to college you do that. Are you going to say the odds of success are low?
Yeah lots of jobs suck and provide lifestyles which are equally bad.
The only reason people can put up with those jobs are because they’re ‘forced’ to do so, and the only reason they work a job like that is because they can’t self-motivate themselves to work hard like they do at job because their not ‘forced’ to do so. So in return they have to put up with that life.
Hence the title, “school-and-jobs-are-good-solely-because-people-are-lazy” because if they were to quit that job than likely due to their lack of self-motivation abilities they will live a even worser life. But if they had the adequate self-motivation they would certainly be able to create a successful business.
I try to understand, but I just can’t understand this perspective which I consider to be quite elitist. This perspective that ordinary people who work ordinary jobs such as customer service, fast-food, etc are too stupid to be successful outside of the work field and shouldn’t try to start businesses as no matter how hard they work they won’t succeed.
So essentially text-book example of what I was referring to when I said: “That’s why “go to college and get a good job” is actually good advice for the majority, as the majority simply are too lazy to be productive unless otherwise pressured to be productive by school & work.” & “the majority of people can’t self motivate themselves and need pressure from their schools or their job to be productive.”
Valid point, I did understate the amount the average people slack off at school/job during those 8 hours. But despite, that the average person is still working a LOT at school/work minus the slacking.
Just in college, not in high school or anything extra. If you spend 40 hours a week on coursework, for 30 weeks a year (2 semesters a year − 15 weeks per semester) for 4 years. You dedicate (40 hours*30 weeks)(4 years) = 4800 hours just to college.
The number is substantially higher when you account for high school, SAT, working on obtaining great extracurricular activities that look good on an application, doing things to get a job like solving leetcode questions, internships, taking advanced classes, etc.
I really dislike general stats as they’re irrelevant.
A high school basketball player asks “What are the odds of me being in the NBA” and gets discouraged when hearing that only .03% of people on the high school team make it. When the stats should mean nothing to him as he’s 6′7, ranked, and has the work-ethic of a maniac (in a good way).
Large majority in that extremely general stat you mentioned aren’t working 8 hours like they would be ‘forced’ to work at school/work
“The majority of people can’t self motivate themselves and need pressure from their schools or their job to be productive.”
recently temporarily fixed what happened to be the most [big × tractable] bottleneck to my productivity.I sure hope this positive change lasts, but I doubt it as I am suspicious of any lasting positive changes from a quick-fix.
I don’t believe theirs any quick-fixes due to humans neuroplasticity being quite stiff (unless you do Ketamine which increases neuroplasticity, than sure you can make quick changes in your life).
For a lasting change, you’d need the change to last much longer (I’d imagine at the very least 30 days), which is of course quite hard to do long-term hence why many end up applying these short-term fixes.
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It’s important to note that humans aren’t rational.
Humans have all been guilty of doing one quick change and getting this profoundness of “oh my god this is amazing I should have done this earlier my life is changed” but shortly after it wears off and you end up with no positive change.
You have to keep in mind that no matter how rational the change is, it’s going to be tough as our brain doesn’t really want us to change and wants us to remain in it’s familiar patterns.
What most people call “hustling” isn’t actually hustling and their just doing work that feels productive when in actuality their ignoring the work that would actually benefit them. Dude seriously MLM?
See my other comment for a better understanding of my views seems I didn’t do a good enough job explaining it sorry for that.
I disagree with the notion that there’s no difference between spending 8 hours working at school/work vs 8 hours on a business because you kinda ‘have to’ do school/work.
As once your in that building, it’s not like you can just be like “oops ima just stop right now and do something else” + always an authority figure close by so you feel watched 24⁄7 + pressure from them.
While when you’re spending 8 hours on your business with nobody pushing you to keep on working, when your mind can easily just be like: “ehh I don’t feel like working this week and it’s not like missing one week is going to be the end of the world.”
While if you did that at your job you’d be fired.
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If you look at what people do when their not at their job/at school, it’s oftentimes not productive (look at what people do on days they have off, weekends, summer, holidays) and sure you can say well that doesn’t count because their recharging from their work, etc. But I still believe the point stands as every time people get off work, they rarely do things that suck but they know they should do (chores and caring for your family doesn’t really count for the opposite reason that’s in the next sentence).
As they aren’t ‘forced’ to do so, hence aren’t: working out, eating healthy, getting good quality sleep, not wasting time on tiktok/youtube, not drinking, not smoking, or plenty of other things the majority of people don’t do despite the obvious benefits. But they do school/work due to their hand being kind of forced to do so.
Hence I believe the majority should willingly put themselves into situations where they are ‘forced’ to be productive so they don’t do things that they know are bad for themselves. Hence why I advocate for school/work for the majority as not doing those will likely lead to them spending their time on worser things. (You never go like, “hmm my job/school gave me off today so I will replace the free-time with 8 hours of doing things I don’t like to do but know I should.” Again, chores & taking care of your family doesn’t count as you’re ‘forced’ to do so).
But rationally speaking, since people don’t even like work or school and spend high amounts of time on it for little returns. I believe that humans would be much better off spending that time on starting a business which has a much higher ROI (especially considering that in this day and age, if you can code than you don’t need much capital).
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Okay, point 2 is just another job. (Uhm, does having two jobs mean that the person is twice as lazy?) Point 3 is even worse, just another unpaid job. And the point 1 is not exactly a job, but... it's kinda job-related? I mean, does the hypothetical person who spends 8 hours a day doing their business also spend some time learning and generally thinking about stuff, and if yes, is that time also included in those 8 hours?There’s a big difference in doing non-instant gratification activities because you enjoy them and doing them despite your intense dislike of it (like people often experience with school/work).
I too code and similarly to you have spent years coding and have done some projects for people in return for money. But I wouldn’t say that’s work as I enjoyed it and was only doing the parts of coding I enjoyed (as I could have made much more money coding, if I were to do things I felt less passion for and solely focused on the things that I disliked but would have made me money).
And I assume your like me as, who contributes to an open-source project if their not coding for the enjoyment of it?
If you do have the ability to self-motivate yourself to work hard, school/job is a bad choice instead of starting a business.
Yeah people underestimate how hard social engineering is ngl, cuz it’s one of those things very easy to get started in but very hard to be good at