Fun Theory

TagLast edit: 12 Feb 2023 20:03 UTC by _will_

Fun Theory is the field of knowledge studying how to design for fun in future society: it deals in questions such as “How much fun is there in the universe?”, “Will we ever run out of fun?”, “Are we having fun yet?” and “Could we be having more fun?”

From The Fun Theory Sequence:

Many critics (including George Orwell) have commented on the inability of authors to imagine Utopias where anyone would actually want to live. If no one can imagine a Future where anyone would want to live, that may drain off motivation to work on the project. The prospect of endless boredom is routinely fielded by conservatives as a knockdown argument against research on lifespan extension, against cryonics, against all transhumanism, and occasionally against the entire Enlightenment ideal of a better future.

Fun Theory is also the fully general reply to religious theodicy (attempts to justify why God permits evil). Our present world has flaws even from the standpoint of such eudaimonic considerations as freedom, personal responsibility, and self-reliance. Fun Theory tries to describe the dimensions along which a benevolently designed world can and should be optimized, and our present world is clearly not the result of such optimization. Fun Theory also highlights the flaws of any particular religion’s perfect afterlife—you wouldn’t want to go to their Heaven.

The argument against Enlightenment

Some critiques of transhumanism (and related fields such as cryonics or lifespan extension) suggest that human enhancement would be accompanied boredom and the end of fun as we know it. For example: “if we self-improve human minds to extreme levels of intelligence, all challenges known today may bore us.” Likewise, “if superhumanly intelligent machines take care of our every need, it is apparent that no challenges nor fun will remain.”

However, we can work towards determining whether and how the universe will offer, or whether we ourselves can create, ever more complex and sophisticated opportunities to delight, entertain and challenge ever more powerful and resourceful minds.

The concept of Utopia

Transhumanists are usually seen as working towards a better human future. This future is sometimes conceptualized, as George Orwell aptly describes it, as Utopia:

“It is a commonplace [view] that the Christian Heaven, as usually portrayed, would attract nobody. Almost all Christian writers dealing with Heaven either say frankly that it is indescribable or conjure up a vague picture of gold, precious stones, and the endless singing of hymns… [W]hat it could not do was to describe a condition in which the ordinary human being actively wanted to be.”

Imagining this perfect future where every problem is solved and where there is constant peace and rest—as seen, a close parallel to several religious Heavens—rapidly leads to the conclusion that no one would actually want to live there.

Complex values and fun theory’s solution

A key insight of fun theory, in its current embryonic form, is that eudaimonia—the classical framework where happiness is the ultimate human goal—is complicated. That is, there are many properties which contribute to a life worth living. We humans require many things to experience a fulfilled life: Aesthetic stimulation, pleasure, love, social interaction, learning, challenge, and much more.

It is a common mistake in discussion of future society to extract only one element of the human preferences and advocate that it alone be maximized. This would neglect all other human values. For example, if we simply optimize for pleasure or happiness, “wirehead”, we’ll stimulate the relevant parts of our brain and experience bliss for eternity, but pursue no other experiences. If almost any element of our value system is absent, then the human future will likely be very unpleasant.

Enhanced humans are also seen to have the value system of humans today, but we may choose to change it as we self-enhance. We may want to alter our own value system, by eliminating values, like bloodlust, which on reflection we wish were absent. But there are many values which we, on reflection, want to keep, and since we humans have no basis for a value system other than our current value system, fun theory must seek to maximize the value system that we have, rather than inventing new values.

Fun theory thus seeks to let us keep our curiosity and love of learning intact, while preventing the extremes of boredom possible in a transhuman future if our strongly boosted intellects have exhausted all challenges. More broadly, fun theory seeks to allow humanity to enjoy life when all needs are easily satisfied and avoid the fall into the un-fun utopian futures in literature.

External links

See also

31 Laws of Fun

Eliezer Yudkowsky26 Jan 2009 10:13 UTC
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The Fun The­ory Sequence

Eliezer Yudkowsky25 Jan 2009 11:18 UTC
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The Uses of Fun (The­ory)

Eliezer Yudkowsky2 Jan 2009 20:30 UTC
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The Maker of MIND

Tomás B.20 Nov 2021 16:28 UTC
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Joy in the Merely Real

Eliezer Yudkowsky20 Mar 2008 6:18 UTC
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Without—MicroFic­tion 250 words

Carissa Cassiel9 Dec 2023 21:49 UTC
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The point of a game is not to win, and you shouldn’t even pre­tend that it is

mako yass28 Sep 2023 15:54 UTC
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Char­ac­ter­is­ing utopia

Richard_Ngo2 Jan 2020 0:00 UTC
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Sto­ry­tel­ler’s con­ven­tion, 2223 A.D.

plex7 Apr 2023 11:54 UTC
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Joy in the Here and Real

Screwtape10 Nov 2023 17:22 UTC
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High Challenge

Eliezer Yudkowsky19 Dec 2008 0:51 UTC
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Com­plex Novelty

Eliezer Yudkowsky20 Dec 2008 0:31 UTC
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Prole­gom­ena to a The­ory of Fun

Eliezer Yudkowsky17 Dec 2008 23:33 UTC
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The Best Toy In The Park

jefftk25 Aug 2020 14:30 UTC
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The Ad­ven­ture: a new Utopia story

Stuart_Armstrong5 Feb 2020 16:50 UTC
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Con­tin­u­ous Improvement

Eliezer Yudkowsky11 Jan 2009 2:09 UTC
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Com­pet­i­tive, Co­op­er­a­tive, and Cohabitive

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[Question] Ex­am­ples of Low Sta­tus Fun

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[NSFW Re­view] In­ter­species Reviewers

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Play­ing Without Affordances

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our deep­est wishes

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Free to Optimize

Eliezer Yudkowsky2 Jan 2009 1:41 UTC
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Harm­ful Options

Eliezer Yudkowsky25 Dec 2008 2:26 UTC
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Am­pu­ta­tion of Destiny

Eliezer Yudkowsky29 Dec 2008 18:00 UTC
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Sen­sual Experience

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A bridge to Dath Ilan? Im­proved gov­er­nance on the crit­i­cal path to AI al­ign­ment.

Jackson Wagner18 May 2022 15:51 UTC
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Un­bounded In­tel­li­gence Lottery

kman7 Jul 2022 23:28 UTC
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Jus­tified Ex­pec­ta­tion of Pleas­ant Surprises

Eliezer Yudkowsky15 Jan 2009 7:26 UTC
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Vi­su­al­iz­ing Eutopia

Eliezer Yudkowsky16 Dec 2008 18:39 UTC
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Emo­tional Involvement

Eliezer Yudkowsky6 Jan 2009 22:23 UTC
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​​ Open-ended/​Phenom­e­nal ​Ethics ​(TLDR)

Ryo 9 Nov 2023 16:58 UTC
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Im­ple­men­ta­tions of immortality

Richard_Ngo1 Nov 2018 14:20 UTC
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The im­por­tance of study­ing sub­jec­tive experience

Q Home21 Oct 2022 8:43 UTC
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The Su­per Happy Peo­ple (3/​8)

Eliezer Yudkowsky1 Feb 2009 8:18 UTC
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Is Kiryas Joel an Un­happy Place?

gwern23 Apr 2011 0:08 UTC
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Mo­ral­ity is Awesome

[deleted]6 Jan 2013 15:21 UTC
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[Question] What’s your best al­ter­nate his­tory utopia?

Kaj_Sotala22 Feb 2021 8:17 UTC
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What am I fight­ing for?

Quinn20 Apr 2021 23:27 UTC
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Thoughts on Re-read­ing Brave New World

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A Day in Utopia

ozymandias22 Nov 2017 16:57 UTC
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Map­ping Fun The­ory onto the challenges of eth­i­cal foie gras

HonoreDB7 Dec 2011 20:47 UTC
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Build­ing Weirdtopia

Eliezer Yudkowsky12 Jan 2009 20:35 UTC
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The Frac­tal Fris­sons Reli­gion: Un­veiling the Im­mutable Pat­terns of the Universe

MilesSam20 Nov 2023 18:43 UTC
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Open-ended ethics of phe­nom­ena (a desider­ata with uni­ver­sal moral­ity)

Ryo 8 Nov 2023 20:10 UTC
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In Praise of Boredom

Eliezer Yudkowsky18 Jan 2009 9:03 UTC
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Failed Utopia #4-2

Eliezer Yudkowsky21 Jan 2009 11:04 UTC
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Se­duced by Imagination

Eliezer Yudkowsky16 Jan 2009 3:10 UTC
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Liv­ing By Your Own Strength

Eliezer Yudkowsky22 Dec 2008 0:37 UTC
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Devil’s Offers

Eliezer Yudkowsky25 Dec 2008 17:00 UTC
47 points
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Can’t Un­birth a Child

Eliezer Yudkowsky28 Dec 2008 17:00 UTC
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