Yes, but why do you refuse to believe it? What’s your evidence that your experience of color is ontologically primitive? It’s just baseless assumption.
Physicalists who aren’t thoroughgoing eliminativists or illusionists, are actually dualists.
Can you imagine believing in dualistic non-physical parts of your experience that you are not aware of?
What’s your evidence that your experience of color is ontologically primitive?
That’s not what I’m saying. Experiences can have parts, qualia can have parts. I’m saying that you can’t build color or experience of color, just from the “geometric-causal-numerical” ingredients of standard physical ontology. Given just those ingredients in your ontological recipe, “subjective feels” don’t come for free. You could have the qualia alongside the geometric-causal-numerical (property dualism), or you could have the qualia instead of that (monistic panpsychism), or you might have some other relationship between qualia and physics. But if you only have physics (in any form from Newton to the present day), you don’t have qualia.
or you could have the qualia instead of that (monistic panpsychism)
Physics is monistic panpsychism—there are no just geometric-causal-numerical ingredients, there is also implicit statement that universe that equations describe has intrinsic property of existence.
Yes, but why do you refuse to believe it? What’s your evidence that your experience of color is ontologically primitive? It’s just baseless assumption.
Can you imagine believing in dualistic non-physical parts of your experience that you are not aware of?
That’s not what I’m saying. Experiences can have parts, qualia can have parts. I’m saying that you can’t build color or experience of color, just from the “geometric-causal-numerical” ingredients of standard physical ontology. Given just those ingredients in your ontological recipe, “subjective feels” don’t come for free. You could have the qualia alongside the geometric-causal-numerical (property dualism), or you could have the qualia instead of that (monistic panpsychism), or you might have some other relationship between qualia and physics. But if you only have physics (in any form from Newton to the present day), you don’t have qualia.
Oh, ok, I misunderstood you.
Physics is monistic panpsychism—there are no just geometric-causal-numerical ingredients, there is also implicit statement that universe that equations describe has intrinsic property of existence.