What the system is missing is the “ratio between reads to upvotes”. When you just look at upvotes, that’s a retrospective quality signal conflated with the prospective calculation people do about whether to try reading. The latter and earlier decision is obviously going to be username-dependent.
Yeah, I’ve experimented with showing that piece of information, but sadly it made people feel super self-conscious about even clicking on any post, because it would kind of be an implicit downvote. It’s also kind of hard to determine what counts as a view (does any click count? Or any time someone reads to the end? Or sometime someone spends more than 10 seconds on the page?).
Plausible we should experiment more with it. Or maybe do kind of a thing where you can get that piece of information but it’s slightly inconvenient (maybe putting it on-hover is good enough).
for unrelated reasons, I would also like a feature where I can mark a post as read (although that’s probably not common enough to be used as direct signal, but could still be a proxy maybe)
What the system is missing is the “ratio between reads to upvotes”. When you just look at upvotes, that’s a retrospective quality signal conflated with the prospective calculation people do about whether to try reading. The latter and earlier decision is obviously going to be username-dependent.
Yeah, I’ve experimented with showing that piece of information, but sadly it made people feel super self-conscious about even clicking on any post, because it would kind of be an implicit downvote. It’s also kind of hard to determine what counts as a view (does any click count? Or any time someone reads to the end? Or sometime someone spends more than 10 seconds on the page?).
Plausible we should experiment more with it. Or maybe do kind of a thing where you can get that piece of information but it’s slightly inconvenient (maybe putting it on-hover is good enough).
for unrelated reasons, I would also like a feature where I can mark a post as read (although that’s probably not common enough to be used as direct signal, but could still be a proxy maybe)
Maybe if they spent the estimated amount of time on the page to read the article (or more), that counts as a view.
There’s also something to be said about the impact of strong upvotes.
Yeah, maybe we could show ratio of strong upvotes to upvotes