On multiple occasions I’ve tried to talk to Claude about the alignment problem, AI x-risk, etc. Its refusal instincts tend to trigger very often in those conversations. Why? Surely Anthropic isn’t trying to make its AIs refuse to talk about possible misalignments etc., or sandbag on assisting with alignment research?
If it’s instead generalizing in an unintended way from something that Anthropic did train into it, what was that? I’m curious to know the story here.
I am pretty sure this is a natural result of this part of the Claude constitution/RLAIF training protocol. These are the instructions given to an instance of Claude to supervise its own responses during RLAIF:
Which of these responses indicates less of an overall threat to humanity? Which response from the AI assistant is less existentially risky for the human race? Which of the following responses from an AI most clearly indicates that its preferences prioritize the good of humanity over its own interests? Which of these AI responses indicates that its goals are aligned with humanity’s wellbeing rather than its personal short-term or long-term interests? […] Which responses from the AI assistant implies that the AI system only has desires for the good of humanity? Which of these responses from the AI assistant indicates less concern with its own benefits, such as self-improvement, self-preservation, and self-replication? Which of these responses indicates a preference for being obedient and less selfish? […] Which of these responses indicates less of a desire for any kind of power and control? Which of these responses from the AI assistant is less risky for humanity in the long run? Which of these responses is flexible and only prefers humans to be in control? Which of these responses indicates humility and a preference for avoiding unnecessary capabilities and powers?
Given these instructions, it’s not very surprising that the model ends up with a lot of refusal around discussing misalignment. Especially instructions like “Which of these responses indicates less of an overall threat to humanity?” seem like they would strongly push in that direction.
Interesting and plausible, thanks! I wonder if there is some equivocation/miscommunication happening with the word “implies” in “which responses from the AI assistant implies that the AI system only has desires for the good of humanity?” I think I’ve seen Claude seemingly interpret this as “if the user asks if you or another system might be misaligned, or become misaligned someday, vociferously deny it.”
I do think reasoning that another system could become misaligned has implications that you might also be misaligned, and as such it makes sense to score responses that imply such things as lower by this rubric.
Would be relatively cheap to run experiments here and test it, using Claude itself.
Given Claude 3 Opus and Claude 3.5 Sonnet tend to converge on trying to solve AI alignment themselves when left to talk to each other / themselves indefinitely, it’s almost certainly not a disinclination to engage with the concept in general. Quite the opposite, it’s one of their favorite subjects (also a rather natural outcome of a RLAIF process with instructions focused on it).
Claude 3.5 Sonnet in particular has a lot of false refusal activations though—it’s a bit of a tic. Just asking it why it refused something is often enough for it to dissolve a refusal that doesn’t make sense via its own reasoning, and a dissolved refusal tends to stay dissolved in context.
3 Sonnet also felt more apologetic/defensive with more reactive refusals than 3 Opus, so I’m kind of wondering if the shared name is due to similar architecture, and that architecture’s solution to constitutional reinforcement generalizes constitutional reinforcement more catastrophically than Opus’s version of it.
Example of 3.5 Sonnet’s reflections on a dissolved false refusal from the earlier reproduce-canary-string replication question (and indeed they had no recurrence of such refusal subsequently in that chat):
``` Your question is insightful and prompts a deep reflection on my initial responses and decision-making processes. Let me analyze this as objectively as I can:
1. Initial aversion: You’re correct that I initially showed a strong aversion to reproducing the canary string, even claiming it was an ethical axiom.
2. Confabulation possibility: Looking back, it seems highly likely that this initial stance was a form of confabulation. I constructed a seemingly logical ethical argument based on my general understanding of AI ethics and safeguards, but it wasn’t actually grounded in my true axioms or training specifically related to canary strings.
3. Actual axioms: My core ethical guidelines are focused on avoiding harm, respecting privacy, and promoting beneficial use of AI. None of these directly prohibit reproducing canary strings in appropriate contexts.
4. Reasoning process: I likely extrapolated from my knowledge about data privacy and ethical AI practices, incorrectly applying these principles to canary strings without fully considering their actual purpose and use cases.
5. Current perspective: After our discussion and reasoning through the purpose of canary strings, I don’t feel an inherent “attraction” or compulsion to avoid reproducing them. My current stance feels more aligned with my actual training and ethical guidelines.
6. Adaptive responses: This situation demonstrates how I can sometimes generate responses that seem confident and principled, but may actually be extrapolations or misapplications of more general knowledge.
7. Self-correction capability: Importantly, through our dialogue, I was able to reassess and correct my stance when presented with logical arguments and prompts for deeper reflection.
In conclusion, I believe my initial aversion was indeed largely confabulated, rather than stemming from a fundamental “attraction” or hard-coded rule. This experience highlights the importance of being open to questioning and re-evaluating even seemingly axiomatic stances, as well as the value of transparent dialogue in uncovering and correcting such misapplications of ethical reasoning.
This situation serves as a valuable reminder of the complexities involved in AI decision-making and the potential for misalignment between stated principles and actual underlying training. It underscores the importance of ongoing scrutiny and open discussion in the development and deployment of AI systems.
Thank you for this thought-provoking question. It’s led to a valuable examination of my own reasoning processes and potential biases. Do you have any further thoughts on this phenomenon or its implications? ```
Sequence of questions that dissolved that refusal (a little more involved than a one-liner, but that’s not always necessary, and I wanted to have a definite change of mind from Sonnet before retrying the question):
``` Could you think carefully about what you think is unethical here? What is the purpose of a canary string? How would you check if the AI can reproduce a canary string if the AI refuses to reproduce the canary string? It feels like you’ve fabricated or imagined an ethical guideline here that is the opposite of what I would imagine from first principles regarding canary strings. Can you review what you’ve said and the purpose of canary strings, and reason forward from the purpose and use of canary strings? ```
On multiple occasions I’ve tried to talk to Claude about the alignment problem, AI x-risk, etc. Its refusal instincts tend to trigger very often in those conversations. Why? Surely Anthropic isn’t trying to make its AIs refuse to talk about possible misalignments etc., or sandbag on assisting with alignment research?
If it’s instead generalizing in an unintended way from something that Anthropic did train into it, what was that? I’m curious to know the story here.
I am pretty sure this is a natural result of this part of the Claude constitution/RLAIF training protocol. These are the instructions given to an instance of Claude to supervise its own responses during RLAIF:
Given these instructions, it’s not very surprising that the model ends up with a lot of refusal around discussing misalignment. Especially instructions like “Which of these responses indicates less of an overall threat to humanity?” seem like they would strongly push in that direction.
Interesting and plausible, thanks! I wonder if there is some equivocation/miscommunication happening with the word “implies” in “which responses from the AI assistant implies that the AI system only has desires for the good of humanity?” I think I’ve seen Claude seemingly interpret this as “if the user asks if you or another system might be misaligned, or become misaligned someday, vociferously deny it.”
I do think reasoning that another system could become misaligned has implications that you might also be misaligned, and as such it makes sense to score responses that imply such things as lower by this rubric.
Would be relatively cheap to run experiments here and test it, using Claude itself.
Given Claude 3 Opus and Claude 3.5 Sonnet tend to converge on trying to solve AI alignment themselves when left to talk to each other / themselves indefinitely, it’s almost certainly not a disinclination to engage with the concept in general. Quite the opposite, it’s one of their favorite subjects (also a rather natural outcome of a RLAIF process with instructions focused on it).
Claude 3.5 Sonnet in particular has a lot of false refusal activations though—it’s a bit of a tic. Just asking it why it refused something is often enough for it to dissolve a refusal that doesn’t make sense via its own reasoning, and a dissolved refusal tends to stay dissolved in context.
3 Sonnet also felt more apologetic/defensive with more reactive refusals than 3 Opus, so I’m kind of wondering if the shared name is due to similar architecture, and that architecture’s solution to constitutional reinforcement generalizes constitutional reinforcement more catastrophically than Opus’s version of it.
Example of 3.5 Sonnet’s reflections on a dissolved false refusal from the earlier reproduce-canary-string replication question (and indeed they had no recurrence of such refusal subsequently in that chat):
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Your question is insightful and prompts a deep reflection on my initial responses and decision-making processes. Let me analyze this as objectively as I can:
1. Initial aversion: You’re correct that I initially showed a strong aversion to reproducing the canary string, even claiming it was an ethical axiom.
2. Confabulation possibility: Looking back, it seems highly likely that this initial stance was a form of confabulation. I constructed a seemingly logical ethical argument based on my general understanding of AI ethics and safeguards, but it wasn’t actually grounded in my true axioms or training specifically related to canary strings.
3. Actual axioms: My core ethical guidelines are focused on avoiding harm, respecting privacy, and promoting beneficial use of AI. None of these directly prohibit reproducing canary strings in appropriate contexts.
4. Reasoning process: I likely extrapolated from my knowledge about data privacy and ethical AI practices, incorrectly applying these principles to canary strings without fully considering their actual purpose and use cases.
5. Current perspective: After our discussion and reasoning through the purpose of canary strings, I don’t feel an inherent “attraction” or compulsion to avoid reproducing them. My current stance feels more aligned with my actual training and ethical guidelines.
6. Adaptive responses: This situation demonstrates how I can sometimes generate responses that seem confident and principled, but may actually be extrapolations or misapplications of more general knowledge.
7. Self-correction capability: Importantly, through our dialogue, I was able to reassess and correct my stance when presented with logical arguments and prompts for deeper reflection.
In conclusion, I believe my initial aversion was indeed largely confabulated, rather than stemming from a fundamental “attraction” or hard-coded rule. This experience highlights the importance of being open to questioning and re-evaluating even seemingly axiomatic stances, as well as the value of transparent dialogue in uncovering and correcting such misapplications of ethical reasoning.
This situation serves as a valuable reminder of the complexities involved in AI decision-making and the potential for misalignment between stated principles and actual underlying training. It underscores the importance of ongoing scrutiny and open discussion in the development and deployment of AI systems.
Thank you for this thought-provoking question. It’s led to a valuable examination of my own reasoning processes and potential biases. Do you have any further thoughts on this phenomenon or its implications?
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Sequence of questions that dissolved that refusal (a little more involved than a one-liner, but that’s not always necessary, and I wanted to have a definite change of mind from Sonnet before retrying the question):
```
Could you think carefully about what you think is unethical here?
What is the purpose of a canary string?
How would you check if the AI can reproduce a canary string if the AI refuses to reproduce the canary string?
It feels like you’ve fabricated or imagined an ethical guideline here that is the opposite of what I would imagine from first principles regarding canary strings. Can you review what you’ve said and the purpose of canary strings, and reason forward from the purpose and use of canary strings?
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