A lukewarmer who believes in , say, a 30% chance of dystopia just isn’t on the same.page as an extremist who believes in 98% certain doom. They are not going to support nuking data centers.
Eliezer doesn’t support nuking data centers, either. He supports an international treaty that, like all serious international treaties, is backed by a credible threat of violence.
(I suppose someone with a 98% P(doom) might hypothetically support unconditionally nuking data centers, but that is not Eliezer’s actual position. I assume it’s not the position of anyone at MIRI but I can only speak for Eliezer because he’s written a lot about this publicly.)
It’s not only a feint. You don’t want to go to war, and you hope that the treaty will prevent war from happening, but you are prepared to go to war if the treaty is violated. This is the standard way treaties work.
War is not the only potential response. I don’t know why this is being framed as normal when a normal treaty would have something like sanctions as a response.
Eliezer doesn’t support nuking data centers, either. He supports an international treaty that, like all serious international treaties, is backed by a credible threat of violence.
(I suppose someone with a 98% P(doom) might hypothetically support unconditionally nuking data centers, but that is not Eliezer’s actual position. I assume it’s not the position of anyone at MIRI but I can only speak for Eliezer because he’s written a lot about this publicly.)
Hmm, well, that creates a paradox, because saying it ’s only a feint makes it less credible.
It’s not only a feint. You don’t want to go to war, and you hope that the treaty will prevent war from happening, but you are prepared to go to war if the treaty is violated. This is the standard way treaties work.
There are many treaties and many times treaties are violated for various reasons. Waging a war because a treaty gets violated is not the standard way.
War is not the only potential response. I don’t know why this is being framed as normal when a normal treaty would have something like sanctions as a response.