If we wish to really spur the destruction of bullshit, perhaps there should be an anti-review: A selection process aimed at posts that received many upvotes, seem widely loved, but in retrospect were either false or so confused as to be as bad or worse than being false. The worst of LW, rather than the best; the things that seemed most shiny and were most useless.
I note that for purposes of evaluating whether we are full of bullshit, the current review process will very likely fail because of how it is constructed; it isn’t an attempt to falsify, it’s making the wrong move on the Wason Selection Task. While such a negative process might do the opposite.
(Of course, the questionable social dynamics around this would be even worse)
Huh, I feel like it’s pretty good for that purpose? If you want a list of posts that were popular but not endorsed, just take the difference between the highly upvoted posts and the review results.
The only requirement for a posts to enter the review phase is that anyone thinks it still has anything going for it. As such, if a post is obviously a fad, it won’t end up thoroughly reviewed, but if it’s really that common-knowledge that it was a fad, that seems fine. And even then, we still occasionally have people nominate posts for review just because they think they are bad and want people to do a retrospective on them.
One thing I want to remind people: if something looks like it’s going to end up winning the review, and you disagree with it, if you write up a critical review that gets upvoted (10+ karma), it’ll show up whenever we spotlight the review. This may not be fully satisfying if you were really hoping to change everyone’s mind, but it does mean you can at least make sure our infrastructure makes sure everyone knows about your disagreement.
(I recommend optimizing your first sentence to convey the most important argument of your disagreement, so the one-line version of the comment gets the core idea across)
For example, AI Control was one of the leading candidates from the last review, but, John’s countertake is highlighted for people who are skimming through the /bestoflesswrong page.
If we wish to really spur the destruction of bullshit, perhaps there should be an anti-review: A selection process aimed at posts that received many upvotes, seem widely loved, but in retrospect were either false or so confused as to be as bad or worse than being false. The worst of LW, rather than the best; the things that seemed most shiny and were most useless.
I note that for purposes of evaluating whether we are full of bullshit, the current review process will very likely fail because of how it is constructed; it isn’t an attempt to falsify, it’s making the wrong move on the Wason Selection Task. While such a negative process might do the opposite.
(Of course, the questionable social dynamics around this would be even worse)
Huh, I feel like it’s pretty good for that purpose? If you want a list of posts that were popular but not endorsed, just take the difference between the highly upvoted posts and the review results.
The only requirement for a posts to enter the review phase is that anyone thinks it still has anything going for it. As such, if a post is obviously a fad, it won’t end up thoroughly reviewed, but if it’s really that common-knowledge that it was a fad, that seems fine. And even then, we still occasionally have people nominate posts for review just because they think they are bad and want people to do a retrospective on them.
One thing I want to remind people: if something looks like it’s going to end up winning the review, and you disagree with it, if you write up a critical review that gets upvoted (10+ karma), it’ll show up whenever we spotlight the review. This may not be fully satisfying if you were really hoping to change everyone’s mind, but it does mean you can at least make sure our infrastructure makes sure everyone knows about your disagreement.
(I recommend optimizing your first sentence to convey the most important argument of your disagreement, so the one-line version of the comment gets the core idea across)
For example, AI Control was one of the leading candidates from the last review, but, John’s countertake is highlighted for people who are skimming through the /bestoflesswrong page.