Really? Links? A lot of stuff here is a bit too culty for my tastes, or just embarassing, but “cutting family ties with nonrational family members”?? I haven’t been following LW closely for a while now so I may have missed it, but that doesn’t sound accurate.
diegocaleiro didn’t just say they were just irrational:
(1) Stupid (2) Religious (3) Non-rationalists (4) Absolutely clueless about reality (5) Pushy about inserting their ideas/ideals/weltenshaaung/motifs into you?
I strongly suspect that this isn’t a case of “My family members don’t believe as I do, therefore fuck those guys.” but rather “These family members know that I am nonreligious and aggressively proselytize because of it.” This probably isn’t even about rationality or LessWrong, rather atheism.
Note also that it is diegocaleiro who initiated the conversation, and note the level of enthusiasm about the idea received from other posters (Only ChristianKI and Benito’s responses seem wholly in favor, Villiam_Bur and drethelin’s responses are against, shminux and Ben_LandauTaylor’s responses are neutral).
“These family members know that I am nonreligious and aggressively proselytize because of it.”
Outside view: These family members know that [diegocaleiro joined a group with weird non-mainstream religious beliefs] and [are trying to deconvert him].
Thanks for the link. I don’t really see creepy cult isolation in that discussion, and I think most people wouldn’t, but that’s just my intuitive judgment.
That’s the point. It doesn’t look that way from the inside.
If someone would tell those family members that the OP cutted their family ties with them because he made a rational analysis with help from his LessWrong friends those family member might see it as an example of the evil influence that LessWrong has on people.
Really? Links? A lot of stuff here is a bit too culty for my tastes, or just embarassing, but “cutting family ties with nonrational family members”?? I haven’t been following LW closely for a while now so I may have missed it, but that doesn’t sound accurate.
Here’s an example.
diegocaleiro didn’t just say they were just irrational:
I strongly suspect that this isn’t a case of “My family members don’t believe as I do, therefore fuck those guys.” but rather “These family members know that I am nonreligious and aggressively proselytize because of it.” This probably isn’t even about rationality or LessWrong, rather atheism.
Note also that it is diegocaleiro who initiated the conversation, and note the level of enthusiasm about the idea received from other posters (Only ChristianKI and Benito’s responses seem wholly in favor, Villiam_Bur and drethelin’s responses are against, shminux and Ben_LandauTaylor’s responses are neutral).
Outside view: These family members know that [diegocaleiro joined a group with weird non-mainstream religious beliefs] and [are trying to deconvert him].
Thanks for the link. I don’t really see creepy cult isolation in that discussion, and I think most people wouldn’t, but that’s just my intuitive judgment.
That’s the point. It doesn’t look that way from the inside.
If someone would tell those family members that the OP cutted their family ties with them because he made a rational analysis with help from his LessWrong friends those family member might see it as an example of the evil influence that LessWrong has on people.