From a certain point of view that may even be true :-)
If you’re okay with thinking of your mind as an algorithm, then note that any algorithm exists “outside of physics”, having instantiations in many different physical worlds and outputting bits into all of them. As Wei Dai once said, “there are copies of me all over math”. This idea is controversial, but not obviously false.
Also, Nesov has suggested that physics might arise anthropically from the makeup of our minds (“laws of physics are as complex as minds, but complex details have too little measure to matter”). This idea is even more controversial, but also not obviously false.
None of that has any bearing on libertarian free will, though.
Nope. It doesn’t feel like we can generate an antigravity fieldand fly aroung. I do feel as though I can make choices. What has that got to do with being “outside physcis”? The issues of physical (in) determinism and their relation to FW are technical and complex, and not something that can be intuited. We can’t have an intuition of being outside physics because we can’t have an intuition of physics that is worth anything.
Yes, naive libertarian free will is silly, but that doesn’t explain why people go around saying “free will”.
Because that—“the mind exists out side of physics and manipulates it”—is what it feels like.
From a certain point of view that may even be true :-)
If you’re okay with thinking of your mind as an algorithm, then note that any algorithm exists “outside of physics”, having instantiations in many different physical worlds and outputting bits into all of them. As Wei Dai once said, “there are copies of me all over math”. This idea is controversial, but not obviously false.
Also, Nesov has suggested that physics might arise anthropically from the makeup of our minds (“laws of physics are as complex as minds, but complex details have too little measure to matter”). This idea is even more controversial, but also not obviously false.
None of that has any bearing on libertarian free will, though.
Interesting; do you have a reference link?
Nope. It doesn’t feel like we can generate an antigravity fieldand fly aroung. I do feel as though I can make choices. What has that got to do with being “outside physcis”? The issues of physical (in) determinism and their relation to FW are technical and complex, and not something that can be intuited. We can’t have an intuition of being outside physics because we can’t have an intuition of physics that is worth anything.