Comment on the new formatting: I like the new sidenotes generally when used it moderation. On articles where there’s loads of them they get hard to parse. I’m not sure what the best solution is, but possibility is for the “body” of a sidenote to be low-opacity or hidden until you mouse over it (while leaving the title section of the sidenote visible for easy find)
Relatedly… I like the fact that when I mouseover a sidenote a thing pops up on the main text that lets me see what the sidenote is referring to… but think it could actually be more visible (I still have to hunt for it).
I like the idea of sidenotes generally a lot. I’ve been thinking that Google Doc’s side commenting is really neat and I’d been wishing I’d see more like that. I generally like that this website design is giving me lots of information. Things often tend too minimalist.
In terms of streamlining it though, I have some thoughts. I was a little taken aback by https://www.gwern.net/GPT-2 because there are just so many elements on the page when you first look at it:
Italic post meta right at the top.
Site level navigation very top left.
Post Table of Contents
Some kind of abstract like thing a in a special box
Main body text.
A side note.
Granted it was my first time looking at the site and if I was used to those elements might be quicker to parse. Also feels like there four columns of things. Only other thought is I’d prefer sidenotes all on the right hand side. The alternating is distracting and requires I scan both sides or something.
Still, I do like the underlying direction with the design, especially the side notes.
(hmm, looks like not all sidenotes have distinct body/title divisions. General principle of “would be better if the sidenotes didn’t distract me as much when there’s a lot of them” still seems valid tho)
possibility is for the “body” of a sidenote to be low-opacity or hidden until you mouse over it (while leaving the title section of the sidenote visible for easy find)
That would rather defeat the point of the sidenotes, which is to allow you to glance over and read it without moving anything but your eyes.
There is, fundamentally, a trade-off, between three factors:
Using lots of sidenotes/footnotes/etc. in general;
Having them be easily parsable at a glance (instead of requiring active interaction);
Having them not be distracting.
The current implementation is one particular point along those trade-offs; you could argue that some other point would be superior, but it’s at least not obvious that any such superior point exists.
I like the fact that when I mouseover a sidenote a thing pops up on the main text that lets me see what the sidenote is referring to… but think it could actually be more visible (I still have to hunt for it).
As you’ll likely be unsurprised to hear, we’ve actully had complaints that the citation highlighting is too obtrusive, and interferes with reading the text around it while you’re hovering over a sidenote… conflicting preferences and competing access needs strike again!
Yeah. Agree that that’s all complicated and tradeoffs are hard. Just my 2cents.
(Looking forward to future world where it can tell what part of the screen you’re looking at and hide/show things dynamically based on how long you’ve looked at them. Also not looking forward to all the dystopian hellholes that will probably results from that technology when it exists)
I am excited and terrified of eyetracking for foveated rendering in VR for precisely those reasons: it will be both awesome & awful and I don’t know how it’ll net out. (All the more reason to keep paying for VR games, I guess, to help ensure that the user is the customer rather than the product...)
Comment on the new formatting: I like the new sidenotes generally when used it moderation. On articles where there’s loads of them they get hard to parse. I’m not sure what the best solution is, but possibility is for the “body” of a sidenote to be low-opacity or hidden until you mouse over it (while leaving the title section of the sidenote visible for easy find)
Relatedly… I like the fact that when I mouseover a sidenote a thing pops up on the main text that lets me see what the sidenote is referring to… but think it could actually be more visible (I still have to hunt for it).
I like the idea of sidenotes generally a lot. I’ve been thinking that Google Doc’s side commenting is really neat and I’d been wishing I’d see more like that. I generally like that this website design is giving me lots of information. Things often tend too minimalist.
In terms of streamlining it though, I have some thoughts. I was a little taken aback by https://www.gwern.net/GPT-2 because there are just so many elements on the page when you first look at it:
Italic post meta right at the top.
Site level navigation very top left.
Post Table of Contents
Some kind of abstract like thing a in a special box
Main body text.
A side note.
Granted it was my first time looking at the site and if I was used to those elements might be quicker to parse. Also feels like there four columns of things. Only other thought is I’d prefer sidenotes all on the right hand side. The alternating is distracting and requires I scan both sides or something.
Still, I do like the underlying direction with the design, especially the side notes.
(hmm, looks like not all sidenotes have distinct body/title divisions. General principle of “would be better if the sidenotes didn’t distract me as much when there’s a lot of them” still seems valid tho)
That would rather defeat the point of the sidenotes, which is to allow you to glance over and read it without moving anything but your eyes.
There is, fundamentally, a trade-off, between three factors:
Using lots of sidenotes/footnotes/etc. in general;
Having them be easily parsable at a glance (instead of requiring active interaction);
Having them not be distracting.
The current implementation is one particular point along those trade-offs; you could argue that some other point would be superior, but it’s at least not obvious that any such superior point exists.
As you’ll likely be unsurprised to hear, we’ve actully had complaints that the citation highlighting is too obtrusive, and interferes with reading the text around it while you’re hovering over a sidenote… conflicting preferences and competing access needs strike again!
Yeah. Agree that that’s all complicated and tradeoffs are hard. Just my 2cents.
(Looking forward to future world where it can tell what part of the screen you’re looking at and hide/show things dynamically based on how long you’ve looked at them. Also not looking forward to all the dystopian hellholes that will probably results from that technology when it exists)
I am excited and terrified of eyetracking for foveated rendering in VR for precisely those reasons: it will be both awesome & awful and I don’t know how it’ll net out. (All the more reason to keep paying for VR games, I guess, to help ensure that the user is the customer rather than the product...)