a bigger generic update towards integrity/honesty being important.
This seems backwards to me. For example, Open Phil as a grantmaker substantially increased the degree to which they are concerned about PR and how much they should overall obfuscate or distort, with the reasoning that FTX’s collapse substantially increased the risk that various people would take opportunities to attack EA-affiliated things, and also clearly demonstrated that PR risks are real and have really bad consequences.
In-general I’ve mostly seen people update that EA should now try harder to not look bad and to me more concerned about our reputation in a way I think quite straightforwardly trades off against honesty and integrity.
To be clear, this is not universal, and some people I know have updated in ways that put more emphasis on integrity, but I think most of the update is backwards.
OK, interesting, thanks. I don’t have much of an opinion about this myself but I agree that insofar as the update is mostly towards PRishness and not genuine integrity, that’s bad. I’d be curious to hear more about it if you want to talk about it.
This seems backwards to me. For example, Open Phil as a grantmaker substantially increased the degree to which they are concerned about PR and how much they should overall obfuscate or distort, with the reasoning that FTX’s collapse substantially increased the risk that various people would take opportunities to attack EA-affiliated things, and also clearly demonstrated that PR risks are real and have really bad consequences.
In-general I’ve mostly seen people update that EA should now try harder to not look bad and to me more concerned about our reputation in a way I think quite straightforwardly trades off against honesty and integrity.
To be clear, this is not universal, and some people I know have updated in ways that put more emphasis on integrity, but I think most of the update is backwards.
OK, interesting, thanks. I don’t have much of an opinion about this myself but I agree that insofar as the update is mostly towards PRishness and not genuine integrity, that’s bad. I’d be curious to hear more about it if you want to talk about it.
Will send you a link to some drafts I’ve been writing. Hopefully I’ll publish some things eventually.
Lmk if I can help with that, via dialogues, co-writing, or something else