The analogy with the war works in the opposite direction you intend it to!
If we treated negotiation to end a war similarly
We… already do treat it this way? Have you never seen discussion how the Russia/Ukraine war is about incentives?
the conversation would mostly be strangers appearing to tell you you’re an idiot because you obviously can’t coordinate thousands of people not to kill each other.
It sort of is this way! Putin can’t stop the war machine easily without getting some kind of a win, at least taking the Donbas. Zelensky can’t stop the war machine because losing the Donbas would make the Ukrainian people view him as weak. Additionally, he would have to run a Presidential election. Not too mention his previous corruption would be investigated.
And if you somehow stopped Country A from killing people from Country B, Country A is just going to pay someone else to do it!
Again sort of, in the form: “If Putin got the Donbas, he’d just restart the war”.
state leaders would never attempt it
But yes, neither Putin nor Zelensky want a negotiation. The logic checks out.
And thinking about it in a ‘real-world pragmatic problem that we want to solve’ mental mode, rather than a ‘abstract philosophical chit-chat’ mental mode
What would this look like? What would be the difference between the former and the latter, for a given person whose impact on the world is comparatively small? The talk I hear about ending Russia/Ukraine war is a lot like “abstract philosophical chit-chat” precisely because it’s hard for a single person (not counting Putin) to make iterative progress on this.
If anything, the safety/alignment conversations I hear are a lot more practical.
I don’t think there was an RCT for DMT vs triptans. It’d be great to have one but I don’t think anyone ran one. There are also legal barriers to running one (which are definitely possible to overcome, but still).
Testimonials and surveys of patients are the best thing we have currently.
4-AcO-DMT is converted to psilocin (4-HO-DMT) in the body, the same way psilocybin (4-PO-DMT) does, so it’s not particularly different.
DMT is already mild when taken in doses required for this condition. If you want something even milder, 5-MeO-DALT pops up in discussions, but my impression it’s because it’s legal in many jurisdictions.
Re: psychedelic enthusiasts.overstating effects. I recommend going for the primary sources and looking up testimonials from cluster headache patients!
It feels clear to me, for example, that agentic desire is inherent to pain and suffering (there has to be a thing that wants not-that for it to count as pain/suffering).
Why is this clear? People who meditate a lot often drop their sense of agency and it does come with a layer of suffering being dropped, but the baseline experience remains.
When I experience a toothache, it just feels bad on its own, like a dissonance in my experience. And when I pinch myself to cause pain, my agentic desire is actually directed in the opposite direction of pain, but the pain still happens.
The analogy with the war works in the opposite direction you intend it to!
We… already do treat it this way? Have you never seen discussion how the Russia/Ukraine war is about incentives?
It sort of is this way! Putin can’t stop the war machine easily without getting some kind of a win, at least taking the Donbas. Zelensky can’t stop the war machine because losing the Donbas would make the Ukrainian people view him as weak. Additionally, he would have to run a Presidential election. Not too mention his previous corruption would be investigated.
Again sort of, in the form: “If Putin got the Donbas, he’d just restart the war”.
But yes, neither Putin nor Zelensky want a negotiation. The logic checks out.
What would this look like? What would be the difference between the former and the latter, for a given person whose impact on the world is comparatively small? The talk I hear about ending Russia/Ukraine war is a lot like “abstract philosophical chit-chat” precisely because it’s hard for a single person (not counting Putin) to make iterative progress on this.
If anything, the safety/alignment conversations I hear are a lot more practical.