Campbell Hutcheson

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Campbell Hutcheson 3 Mar 2025 20:56 UTC
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on: Will LLM agents become the first takeover-capable AGIs?
I think the main issue is that inquiry generally follows two directions:
1. What was predicted before and gained cultural momentum as an area of study?
2. What exists now and is therefore an easy object of study?
Pretrained LLMs seem to have been somewhat unexpected as the probable path to AGI so there isn’t a large historical cultural discussion around more advanced variants of them / their systematic interaction.
And, there are not yet systems of interacting LLM agents so they cannot be an easy topic of study due to a plethora of available examples.
I think that’s basically why you don’t see more about this—but in like a year—when they start to emerge—you’ll see the conversation shift to them—because they will be easier to study.

Campbell Hutcheson 26 Feb 2025 21:36 UTC
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in reply to: Nathan Helm-Burger’s comment on: Campbell Hutcheson’s Shortform
I agree that a skilled murderer could try make the death look like suicide, but each of the places where the murderer would need to make the death look like a suicide would add an additional failure point with a greater chance of producing some inconsistency.
On Suchir being drunk, according to his parents, he came back from a birthday trip to LA with his friends on Friday. So, this might explain why he was drunk. We don’t know exactly when he got back though / whether he was drunk when he got back / whether he got drunk afterwards.

Campbell Hutcheson 26 Feb 2025 21:20 UTC
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in reply to: Warty’s comment on: Campbell Hutcheson’s Shortform
Originally, the parents visited the apartment with George Webb, who was an independent journalist and a bit of a conspiracy theorist. On that visit, George Webb said that there was hair under the doorframe in a way that was unusual. Suchir’s mother also discusses it in the Tucker Carlson interview (starting at 26:00).
There was no mention of a wig in the police report, though.

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Campbell Hutcheson26 Feb 2025 3:50 UTC

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Campbell Hutcheson 26 Feb 2025 3:50 UTC
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on: Campbell Hutcheson’s Shortform
The Suchir Balaji Autopsy Report came out recently
Overall, I think it’s quite compelling evidence it was a suicide.
The points against it being suicide are:
1. The somewhat awkward angle of the gun
2. The lack of gunpowder on the skin surrounding the wound
3. The lack of stippling around the wound
4. Some small potential inconsistencies between parent’s account and police report (such as the claim by parents that father talked to Suchir by phone on Friday)
5. Had a project to live for as a whistleblower against OpenAI
6. Suchir’s family insists he wasn’t suicidal; he seemed overall to be living a good life
The points for it are:
1. No signs of forced entry or struggle
2. The gun was purchased by and registered to Suchir
3. There was gunpowder residue on Suchir’s hands and Suchir’s DNA was on the gun
4. The door to his apartment was locked
5. Internet searches on his computer related to “total gray matter volume” and “white matter” in brain
6. The toxicology report shows he was drunk
7. The base-rate of suicide is much higher than homicide
8. Theories about who would have a motivation to kill him seem far-fetched to me; OpenAI is getting much worse press form the suicide than they likely would have if he hadn’t killed himself
General notes summarizing the report:
- Suchir was found by the police on Tuesday, 11/26/24, at his apartment at 188 Buchanan Street Apartment #409; as part of a wellness check (requested by his mother)
- Apartment was locked with a deadbolt, no signs of forced entry to the apartment or signs of struggle within the apartment; desktop computer with searchers for “total gray matter volume” and “white matter”; key for apartment was found in unit
- Last communicated with his mother via text on Friday, 11/22/2024 (the parents in interviews have claimed that their last contact with him was when he talked with his father by phone on Friday night but the police report doesn’t mention this)
- Death was from gunshot wound to the head; entry point at the glabella of the forehead (between the eyes), centered approximately 13 cm below the top of the head and 0.5 cm right of the anterior midline
- Bullet traveled down and back and into the neck, where it was recovered; soot and unburned gunpowder was not readily visible on the skin, no gunpowder stippling was found around the wound
- Glock pistol found at scene; 4 live rounds, 1 spent casing; pistol was purchased and registered by Suchir on 01/04/2024; gunpowder residue was found on both of Suchir’s hands; Suchir’s DNA was found on the pistol; markings on the bullet recovered during examination matched unique striations left by the pistol’s barrel
- Toxicology report showed .178 BAC level (very intoxicated); blood Amphetamine levels between 35 ng/mL and 39 ng/mL (not very notable); GHB levels between 54,000 ng/mL and 67,000 ng/mL (apparently this is within normal ranges for how much buildup of GHB you might naturally expect given the body had been decaying for a few days)
- Decomposition of the body was moderate when found.

Campbell Hutcheson 4 Feb 2025 4:54 UTC
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on: Meta: Frontier AI Framework
I’m generally favorable to see more of these published. Mainly, because I think these are going to end up being the basis for an industry audit standard and then a law.
The more similar they are, they easier it will be for them to converge.

Campbell Hutcheson 6 Jan 2025 3:23 UTC
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in reply to: Zach Stein-Perlman’s comment on: Anthropic’s Certificate of Incorporation
I worried this was a loophole: “the Trust Agreement also authorizes the Trust to be enforced by the company and by groups of the company’s stockholders who have held a sufficient percentage of the company’s equity for a sufficient period of time.” An independent person told me it’s a normal Delaware law thing and it’s only relevant if the Trust breaks the rules. Yay! This is good news, but I haven’t verified it and I’m still somewhat suspicious (but this is mostly on me, not Anthropic, to figure out).
The Trust Agreement bit sounds like it makes sense to me.
Other thoughts:
- I don’t know how the shareholders can call a vote to undo the Class T shares once the LTBT appoints its 3 directors? This might be something in the bylaws—I talked to ChatGPT a bit about it and that sounds like where the procedural rules around shareholder voting are likely to be.
- I noticed that the Class T shares appear to be able to be wrapped up into the Voting Agreement. I’m a bit curious whether they have been and, if so, whether it gives anyone the power to direct how Class T shares vote.
- I read this John Morley article and I noticed that he wrote: “like the directors of the company, the Trustees must use their powers to ensure the company combines its pursuit of profit with the achievement of the company’s mission to develop and maintain advanced AI for the long-term benefit of humanity”
  - I’d be interested in knowing what the Trust Agreement says about “Trustees must use their powers to ensure the company combines its pursuit of profit...”—do the Trustees have an affirmative duty to ensure that the company turns a profit?
- I was also curious as to why the trust was a “purpose trust” and not a “charitable purpose trust”—whether they didn’t think it would qualify as charitable, etc...
Useful Documents
- Trust Documents
- Anthropic, PBC Bylaws
- Amended and Restated Voting Agreement

Campbell Hutcheson 4 Jan 2025 6:18 UTC
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on: Anthropic’s Certificate of Incorporation
So, my take is that the long term public benefit trust probably has the ³⁄₅ board members now since they have raised over $6 billion dollars.
Here is the definition of the “Final Phase-In Date”:
(VIII)(6)(iv) “Final Phase-In Date” means the earlier to occur of (l) the close of business on May 24, 2027 or (Il) eight months following the date on which the Board of Directors determines that the Corporation has achieved $6 billion in Total Funds Raised;
From Google:
As of November 2024, Anthropic, an artificial intelligence (AI) startup, has raised a total of $13.7 billionin venture capital: [1, 2, 3]
- 2021: $124 million from investors including Jaan Tallinn and the Center for Emerging Risk Research [1]
- 2022: $580 million from Sam Bankman-Fried and his colleagues [1]
- May 2023: $450 million from investors including Google and Salesforce [1]
- August 2023: $100 million from two Asian telecoms [1]
- Amazon: $8 billion, with a $1.25 billion first installment in September 2023 and a $2.75 billion extension in March 2024 [1, 2]
Anthropic has a valuation of over $40 billion. The startup is in discussions to raise more funding at that valuation. [2, 3, 4]
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/20/technology/anthropic-funding-ai.html
[2] https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/22/anthropic-raises-an-additional-4b-from-amazon-makes-aws-its-primary-cloud-partner/
[3] https://www.instagram.com/tradedvc/p/DCr7_gnPUp-/
[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtmOgUqQe7s
[5] https://www.forbes.com/profile/daniela-amodei/

Campbell Hutcheson 17 Oct 2024 21:21 UTC
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on: Anthropic’s first RSP update
Just a collection of other thoughts:
- Why did Anthropic decide that deciding not to classify the new model as ASL-3 is a CEO / RSO decision rather than a board of directors or LTBT decision? Both of those would be more independent.
  - My guess is that it’s because the feeling was that the LTBT would either have insufficient knowledge or would be too slow; it would be interesting to get confirmation though.
  - Haven’t gotten to how the RSO is chosen but if the RSO is appointed by the CEO / Board then I think there are insufficient checks and balances; RSO should be on a 3 year non-renewable, non-terminable contract basis or something similar.
- The document doesn’t feel portable because it feels very centered around Anthropic and the transition from ASL-2 to ASL-3. It just doesn’t feel like something that someone meant to be portable. In fact, it feels more like a high-level commentary on the ASL-2 to ASL-3 transition at Anthropic. The original RSP felt more like something that could have been cleaned up into an industry standard (OAI’s original preparedness framework does a better job with this honestly).
- The reference to existing security frameworks is helpful but it just seems like a grab bag (the reference to SOC2 seems sort of out of place, for instance; NIST 800-53 should be a much higher standard? also, if SOC2, why not ISO 27001?)
- I think they removed the requirement to define ASL-4 before training an ASL-3 model?
Also:
I feel like the introduction is written around trying to position the document positively with regulators.
I’m quite interested in what led to this approach and what parts of the company were involved with writing the document this way. The original version had some of this—but it wasn’t as forward—and didn’t feel as polished in this regard.
Open with Positive Framing
As frontier AI models advance, we believe they will bring about transformative benefits for our society and economy. AI could accelerate scientific discoveries, revolutionize healthcare, enhance our education system, and create entirely new domains for human creativity and innovation.
Emphasize Anthropic’s Leadership
In September 2023, we released our Responsible Scaling Policy (RSP), a first-of-its-kind public commitment
Emphasize Importance of Not Overregulating
This policy reflects our view that risk governance in this rapidly evolving domain should be proportional, iterative, and exportable.
Emphasize Innovation (Again, Don’t Overregulate)
By implementing safeguards that are proportional to the nature and extent of an AI model’s risks, we can balance innovation with safety, maintaining rigorous protections without unnecessarily hindering progress.
Emphasize Anthropic’s Leadership (Again) / Industry Self-Regulation
To demonstrate that it is possible to balance innovation with safety, we must put forward our proof of concept: a pragmatic, flexible, and scalable approach to risk governance. By sharing our approach externally, we aim to set a new industry standard that encourages widespread adoption of similar frameworks.
Don’t Regulate Now (Again)
In the long term, we hope that our policy may oer relevant insights for regulation. In the meantime, we will continue to share our findings with policymakers.
We Care About Other Things You Care About (like Misinformation)
Our Usage Policy sets forth our standards for the use of our products, including prohibitions on using our models to spread misinformation, incite violence or hateful behavior, or engage in fraudulent or abusive practices

Campbell Hutcheson 1 Aug 2024 17:00 UTC
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on: Re: Anthropic’s suggested SB-1047 amendments
I feel like there are two things going on here:
- Anthropic considers itself the expert on AI safety and security and believes that it can develop better SSPs than the California government.
- Anthropic thinks that the California government is too political and does not have the expertise to effectively regulate frontier labs.
But, what they propose in return just seems to be at odds with their stated purpose and view of the future. If AGI is 2-3 years away then various governmental bodies need to be creating administration around AI safety now rather than in 2-3 years time, when it will take another 2-3 years to create the administrative organizations.
The idea that Anthropic or OpenAI or DeepMind should get to decide, on their own, the appropriate safety and security measures for frontier models, seems unrealistic. It’s going to end up being a set of regulations created by a government body—and Anthropic is probably better off participating in that process than trying to oppose its operation at the start.
I feel like some of this just comes from an unrealistic view of the future, where they don’t seem to understand that as AGI approaches, in certain respects they become less influential and important and not more influential and important—as AI ceases to be a niche thing, other power structures in society will exert more influence on its operation and distribution,

Campbell Hutcheson 20 Nov 2023 22:46 UTC
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on: OpenAI: Facts from a Weekend
I’m 90% sure that the issue here was an inexperienced board with Chief Scientist that didn’t understand the human dimension of leadership.
Most independent board members usually have a lot of management experience and so understand that their power on paper is less than their actual power. They don’t have day-to-day factual knowledge about the business of the company and don’t have a good grasp of relationships between employees. So, they normally look to management to tell them what to do.
Here, two of the board members lacked the organizational experience to know that this was the case. Since any normal board would have tried to take the temperature of the employees before removing the CEO. I think this shows that creating a board for OAI to oversee the development of AGI is an incredibly hard task because they need to both understand AGI and understand the organizational level.

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