catnip is something that the cat can eat so it might be food play that happens outside, but I’m not sure about that.
My main point is that it’s very hard to imagine this interaction happening if the cat presses buttons randomly or presses them to fulfill expectations of the human.
I think the cat is reacting to the opinion of the human. You might be mostly concerned that the main driving force would be “which button I am supposed to press?”. But on the repeat the cat is much slower to say no. It feels like saying “no” is sligthly punished. And the human is not exactly hiding their enthusiasm about directing food play activity. I read into that a balancing between internal desires vs social expectations which would be even more complex than the “simpler effects can explain nothing interedsting going on” approach but this is not strongly screening off non-concious suggestions from the human. The human is very visble to the cat, the cat is very interested in the physicality of the human and we don’t see footage of the human to evaluate what signals they might be beaming or not.
Sure I think the humanis not comanding the presses of buttons but advdertisers target kids because they can induce money spending on toys and they don’t command their parents wallets either. It’s like a kid saying “Are we going to McDonalds?” (cat feeling something “but I am feeling so greasy already, let’s not”), its not disambiguation, its negotation/influence.
Another imagination pattern would be when police ask you 10x times whether you did the crime that it might elict a false confession. Having a pattern of “Do you want to do it?”, “No”, “Wrong. Do you want to do it?”,”no”, “Wrong. Do you want to do it”, “Maybe”, is not an expression of enthusiastic consent. I felt I coudl pretty rapid fire come up with these scenarios, they are fairly different and their applicability is not clearly absurd so “very hard to imagine” is not how I experience the interpretation challenge level.
. Having a pattern of “Do you want to do it?”, “No”, “Wrong. Do you want to do it?”,”no”, “Wrong. Do you want to do it”, “Maybe”, is not an expression of enthusiastic consent.
To me it’s very hard to imagine such an exchange without the participants knowing the words that are spoken.
The analog starts to get a little far but I can imagine atleast two scenarios where atleast half of the interaction doesn’t consist of words.
First one. Somebody hitting their TV until it starts working again. The TV sure as hell doesn’t know what the interaction is about. As hitter projecting anger into the situation is a common cognitive fallacy, but low percentage of the time is is a way to wiggle out of the error state of not having a working TV.
Another would be an exchange like “that *itch”, “ermh...”,”witch”, “ermh”,”girl”,”erhm”, “woman”. Is the one doing discouragement on the connotation requesdting a reformulation or neutrally rejecting a wrong answer? It doesn’t involve an established word and it can involve stuff like eye rolling and stuff that is harder to delineate into deiscrete chuncks. This would be a instance of clever hans as the formulator doesn’t need to know what PC-filter is appropriate for the situation.
catnip is something that the cat can eat so it might be food play that happens outside, but I’m not sure about that.
My main point is that it’s very hard to imagine this interaction happening if the cat presses buttons randomly or presses them to fulfill expectations of the human.
I think the cat is reacting to the opinion of the human. You might be mostly concerned that the main driving force would be “which button I am supposed to press?”. But on the repeat the cat is much slower to say no. It feels like saying “no” is sligthly punished. And the human is not exactly hiding their enthusiasm about directing food play activity. I read into that a balancing between internal desires vs social expectations which would be even more complex than the “simpler effects can explain nothing interedsting going on” approach but this is not strongly screening off non-concious suggestions from the human. The human is very visble to the cat, the cat is very interested in the physicality of the human and we don’t see footage of the human to evaluate what signals they might be beaming or not.
Sure I think the humanis not comanding the presses of buttons but advdertisers target kids because they can induce money spending on toys and they don’t command their parents wallets either. It’s like a kid saying “Are we going to McDonalds?” (cat feeling something “but I am feeling so greasy already, let’s not”), its not disambiguation, its negotation/influence.
Another imagination pattern would be when police ask you 10x times whether you did the crime that it might elict a false confession. Having a pattern of “Do you want to do it?”, “No”, “Wrong. Do you want to do it?”,”no”, “Wrong. Do you want to do it”, “Maybe”, is not an expression of enthusiastic consent. I felt I coudl pretty rapid fire come up with these scenarios, they are fairly different and their applicability is not clearly absurd so “very hard to imagine” is not how I experience the interpretation challenge level.
To me it’s very hard to imagine such an exchange without the participants knowing the words that are spoken.
The analog starts to get a little far but I can imagine atleast two scenarios where atleast half of the interaction doesn’t consist of words.
First one. Somebody hitting their TV until it starts working again. The TV sure as hell doesn’t know what the interaction is about. As hitter projecting anger into the situation is a common cognitive fallacy, but low percentage of the time is is a way to wiggle out of the error state of not having a working TV.
Another would be an exchange like “that *itch”, “ermh...”,”witch”, “ermh”,”girl”,”erhm”, “woman”. Is the one doing discouragement on the connotation requesdting a reformulation or neutrally rejecting a wrong answer? It doesn’t involve an established word and it can involve stuff like eye rolling and stuff that is harder to delineate into deiscrete chuncks. This would be a instance of clever hans as the formulator doesn’t need to know what PC-filter is appropriate for the situation.
The analog starts to get a little far but I can imagine atleast two scenarios where atleast half of the interaction doesn’t consist of words.
Of course if the interaction is not about words then it’s not important that the participants of the inteactions understand words.