I agree with the general concern, but it’d be clearly a move in the right direction on that front?
With this kind of proposal I’m more worried that it could lead to a unilateral slowdown just after having animated China to be much more aggressive on AI.
I agree with the general concern, but it’d be clearly a move in the right direction on that front?
agreed, I’m not saying don’t do it. I’m replying to habryka saying it proposes an end to the race.
With this kind of proposal I’m more worried that it could lead to a unilateral slowdown just after having animated China to be much more aggressive on AI.
Doesn’t the USA have enough datacenters to stay ahead of china in the race to fully human-replacing AI for quite a while, even with a unilateral hardware pause? I’m not sure of this claim, but it’s currently my impression that the compute ratio is pretty dramatic.
I expect there’s already enough silicon in place to produce overwhelmingly superhuman AI that still has idiot-savant going on; completely stopping CPU and GPU production worldwide seems to me like it’d be a timeline-extending move, but not by more than a few years. Somewhere between 1.3x and 3x.
Doesn’t the USA have enough datacenters to stay ahead of china in the race to fully human-replacing AI for quite a while, even with a unilateral hardware pause?
As of June 2025 the US has 5x as much compute as China, I’d expect the gap has grown with substantially more American than Chinese data centers coming online in the past ~9 months
I agree with the general concern, but it’d be clearly a move in the right direction on that front?
With this kind of proposal I’m more worried that it could lead to a unilateral slowdown just after having animated China to be much more aggressive on AI.
agreed, I’m not saying don’t do it. I’m replying to habryka saying it proposes an end to the race.
Doesn’t the USA have enough datacenters to stay ahead of china in the race to fully human-replacing AI for quite a while, even with a unilateral hardware pause? I’m not sure of this claim, but it’s currently my impression that the compute ratio is pretty dramatic.
I expect there’s already enough silicon in place to produce overwhelmingly superhuman AI that still has idiot-savant going on; completely stopping CPU and GPU production worldwide seems to me like it’d be a timeline-extending move, but not by more than a few years. Somewhere between 1.3x and 3x.
As of June 2025 the US has 5x as much compute as China, I’d expect the gap has grown with substantially more American than Chinese data centers coming online in the past ~9 months
https://epoch.ai/data-insights/ai-supercomputers-performance-share-by-country