I’m curious, what kinds of events follow Chatham House Rules? I’ve never heard of them until now. Is it just official ones from the Chatham House itself, or have other organizations been using them?
I’ve attended one event under Chatham House rules. Not only was keeping who was there a secret costly, but people reliably considered it unreasonable that I actually kept that secret. “Oh, come on” and variants were used often, because actually keeping to the rule was annoying and they didn’t see the point.
People treating it as unreasonable does make keeping the rule even more expensive, and raises the probability it will be ignored—I believe others took the information part seriously but not the who was there part. But that also makes it really important we find a way to do the full no-one-knows-you-are-there thing when you need to do it, without it giving away that there was true need for it. If you say who attended until the moment you really can’t say, you’re doing Glomarization / Meta-Honesty wrong...
The FLI Beneficial AI workshop and the CHAI annual workshops have both been under the Chatham House Rule, for example. I don’t know about outside of AI safety.
Most workshops organized by CEA follow Chathams House rules, at least the EA Leaders forum and the individual outreach forum both did so. Anna Salamon organized a big-picture AI workshop a year ago that also followed Chathams House rules.
I’m curious, what kinds of events follow Chatham House Rules? I’ve never heard of them until now. Is it just official ones from the Chatham House itself, or have other organizations been using them?
I’ve attended one event under Chatham House rules. Not only was keeping who was there a secret costly, but people reliably considered it unreasonable that I actually kept that secret. “Oh, come on” and variants were used often, because actually keeping to the rule was annoying and they didn’t see the point.
People treating it as unreasonable does make keeping the rule even more expensive, and raises the probability it will be ignored—I believe others took the information part seriously but not the who was there part. But that also makes it really important we find a way to do the full no-one-knows-you-are-there thing when you need to do it, without it giving away that there was true need for it. If you say who attended until the moment you really can’t say, you’re doing Glomarization / Meta-Honesty wrong...
The FLI Beneficial AI workshop and the CHAI annual workshops have both been under the Chatham House Rule, for example. I don’t know about outside of AI safety.
Most workshops organized by CEA follow Chathams House rules, at least the EA Leaders forum and the individual outreach forum both did so. Anna Salamon organized a big-picture AI workshop a year ago that also followed Chathams House rules.
I think you mean, “someone organized” :P