has anyone looked into the “philosophers believe in moral realism” problem? (in the sense of, morality is not physically contained in animal bodies and human-created artifacts)
Minimally, moral realism is the claim that some moral propositions are objectively true or false. Do you have a problem with that? Maximally it can also involve non-naturalism ,or special ontological domains. Is that the problem?
I saw a debate on youtube with Michael Huemer guy but it was with another academic philosopher.
Is that a problem? Why? Do you think all academic philosophers are moral realists? About 62% are. One of the things you could learn from the Wikipedia page.
(BTW, the other guy might be Lance Bush, who is anti realist as they come)
Was there ever an exchange recorded between a moral realist philosopher and a rationalist-lesswrongist?
How would that help? Rationalists haven’t settled in a single moral theory...and plenty of non -rationalists are naturalists.
Most shameful of me to use someone’s term and define it as my beef with them. In my impressions, moral realism has also always involved moral non-corporalism if you will. As long as morality is safely stored in animal bodies, I’m fine with that.
The one in the youtube debate identified as a moral non-realist. But you see, his approach to the subject was different from mine, and that is a problem.
I think there more or less is a rationalist-lesswrongist view of what morality is, shared not by all but most rationalists (I wanted to say it’s explained in the sequences, but suspiciously I can’t find it in there).
I would say it’s perhaps indicative of a problem with academic philosophy. Unless that 62% is mostly moral corporalists, then it’s fine by me if they insist that “some moral propositions are objectively true or false”, I guess.
Minimally, moral realism is the claim that some moral propositions are objectively true or false. Do you have a problem with that? Maximally it can also involve non-naturalism ,or special ontological domains. Is that the problem?
Is that a problem? Why? Do you think all academic philosophers are moral realists? About 62% are. One of the things you could learn from the Wikipedia page.
(BTW, the other guy might be Lance Bush, who is anti realist as they come)
How would that help? Rationalists haven’t settled in a single moral theory...and plenty of non -rationalists are naturalists.
Most shameful of me to use someone’s term and define it as my beef with them. In my impressions, moral realism has also always involved moral non-corporalism if you will. As long as morality is safely stored in animal bodies, I’m fine with that.
The one in the youtube debate identified as a moral non-realist. But you see, his approach to the subject was different from mine, and that is a problem.
I think there more or less is a rationalist-lesswrongist view of what morality is, shared not by all but most rationalists (I wanted to say it’s explained in the sequences, but suspiciously I can’t find it in there).
I am making guesses about what you might be saying, because you are being unclear.
Well,.it doesn’t, and research will tell you that.
Which debate?
I’ve read the sequences ,band that’s why I say there is no clear theory.
I was responding to your correction of my definition of moral realism. I somewhat jokingly expressed shame for defining it idiosyncratically.
It can still be true of my impressions of it, like every time I saw someone arguing for moral realism.
I think it was this one, regretfully I’m being forced to embed it in my reply.
You were saying that there was a problem with philosophy itself.
I don’t recall saying that recently, though it’s true. I don’t know what you’re getting at.
That was a few hours ago.
I would say it’s perhaps indicative of a problem with academic philosophy. Unless that 62% is mostly moral corporalists, then it’s fine by me if they insist that “some moral propositions are objectively true or false”, I guess.
Maybe you could try listening the arguments. MR doesn’t have to be based on material entities or immaterial ones.
that’s a trick to make me be like them!
(I listened to some of that michael huemer talk and it seemed pretty dumb)