I’m confused at the question. One orients all the time, after observe and before decide. OODA is a loop that gets run over and over, at fractally different levels of scale (what career to pursue, what job to take, what task to perform next,
I most recently oriented after reading this question, to try to understand the context and what was causing my confusion. Then I decided to make a comment, and acted upon that decision. I’ll repeat the loop for other posts, and for replies to this comment.
I think dogs orient. Orienting is something like “deciding on a new strategic frame”. There are larger and smaller strategic shifts, and orienting is sort of fractal.
Example:
A dog is playing with a ball (action). It spends a while making little microdecisions within the “play with ball” game. (Chase the ball this way, chase the ball that way). Within the play-the-ball-game is one small OODA loop (observe where the ball headed, and what the owner-who-threw-the-ball is doing. Orient to the fact that you need to change direction if you want to catch the ball. Decide to head in the new direction. Head in the new direction. Catch the ball)
Then the dog notices that it’s hungry (observation). It orients to the hunger. Either it’s not that hungry, and it’s going to continue playing with the ball, or it’s hungry enough that now “get food” is it’s new primary goal, and it begins making choices focused on resolving that., rather than ball-playing. (Running back to the front door, scratching it, looking at the owner hoping the owner comes and let’s the dog inside. If that works, go to the kitchen and scratch at it’s food bowl, etc. If it doesn’t work, maybe run back up to the owner and get its attention. If there is no owner)
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Example 2:
The dog is fighting with another dog. It’s making a serious of decisions and actions about fighting the dog. This can include little micro-orientings, like, “the Other Dog is coming up on my left, hmm, maybe instead of biting it right now I want to run away briefly to get a better position.”
But then a major observation + orienting happens when two new dogs join the fight. Previously the fight seemed winnable, now it seems like the new goal is run away or do some kind of submission ritual.
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In both cases there are micro and macro OODA loop. For the micro OODA loop (i.e. decisions within the “fight with individual dog” situation, or “play with ball” situation), the orienting step is very short.
When John Boyd says “get inside your enemy’s OODA loop to prevent them orienting”, I think he means something metaphorically closer to, when the two new dogs join the fight, keep throwing new observations at the dog that doesn’t give it time to realize “wait, there are two new dogs, I need to stop trying to locally gain a minor tactical advantage and instead just run away” (because every time it starts to think about that, a new thing interrupts it)
I’m confused at the question. One orients all the time, after observe and before decide. OODA is a loop that gets run over and over, at fractally different levels of scale (what career to pursue, what job to take, what task to perform next,
I most recently oriented after reading this question, to try to understand the context and what was causing my confusion. Then I decided to make a comment, and acted upon that decision. I’ll repeat the loop for other posts, and for replies to this comment.
Does a dog orient? An ant? I thought one of the fighter pilot things was to not allow your enemy the time to orient
I think dogs orient. Orienting is something like “deciding on a new strategic frame”. There are larger and smaller strategic shifts, and orienting is sort of fractal.
Example:
A dog is playing with a ball (action). It spends a while making little microdecisions within the “play with ball” game. (Chase the ball this way, chase the ball that way). Within the play-the-ball-game is one small OODA loop (observe where the ball headed, and what the owner-who-threw-the-ball is doing. Orient to the fact that you need to change direction if you want to catch the ball. Decide to head in the new direction. Head in the new direction. Catch the ball)
Then the dog notices that it’s hungry (observation). It orients to the hunger. Either it’s not that hungry, and it’s going to continue playing with the ball, or it’s hungry enough that now “get food” is it’s new primary goal, and it begins making choices focused on resolving that., rather than ball-playing. (Running back to the front door, scratching it, looking at the owner hoping the owner comes and let’s the dog inside. If that works, go to the kitchen and scratch at it’s food bowl, etc. If it doesn’t work, maybe run back up to the owner and get its attention. If there is no owner)
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Example 2:
The dog is fighting with another dog. It’s making a serious of decisions and actions about fighting the dog. This can include little micro-orientings, like, “the Other Dog is coming up on my left, hmm, maybe instead of biting it right now I want to run away briefly to get a better position.”
But then a major observation + orienting happens when two new dogs join the fight. Previously the fight seemed winnable, now it seems like the new goal is run away or do some kind of submission ritual.
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In both cases there are micro and macro OODA loop. For the micro OODA loop (i.e. decisions within the “fight with individual dog” situation, or “play with ball” situation), the orienting step is very short.
When John Boyd says “get inside your enemy’s OODA loop to prevent them orienting”, I think he means something metaphorically closer to, when the two new dogs join the fight, keep throwing new observations at the dog that doesn’t give it time to realize “wait, there are two new dogs, I need to stop trying to locally gain a minor tactical advantage and instead just run away” (because every time it starts to think about that, a new thing interrupts it)