If you are speaking about the US being a factor in Ukrainian politics for decades then a lot of what the US did is not about war.
The EU and the US aren’t just pushing Ukraine to war. They want to do institution building that reduces corruption and that lets Ukraine respect the minority rights of Russian speakers.
If the US or EU had veto power over Ukraine laws, the decommunization laws that made it a criminal offense to insult Ukrainians who mass murdered Jews, Poles, and Communists during WW2 wouldn’t have happened in 2015. The Russian talk about denazification seems like a straight answer to the decommunization project that decided to glorify people who extreminated Jews, Poles, and Communists.
Tens of thousands are dead, and millions have fled their homes. The country may have lost all of its eastern provinces. That’s a heavy price to pay for whatever new political and psychological atmosphere was attained.
If Ukraine would have done what the West wanted they would have abided by the Minsk agreements. The far right in Ukraine and its militia (who did have a habit of attacking political gatherings) didn’t like the Minsk agreements and as a result, Ukraine didn’t abide by the agreements which is a key reason why the invasion in 2022 happened.
Maybe, if the West would have put more pressure on Ukraine to follow the West’s demands at protecting minority rights, the 2022 invasion could have been averted.
This war looks like a net negative to me. But both sides disagree.
If you are speaking about the US being a factor in Ukrainian politics for decades then a lot of what the US did is not about war.
The EU and the US aren’t just pushing Ukraine to war. They want to do institution building that reduces corruption and that lets Ukraine respect the minority rights of Russian speakers.
If the US or EU had veto power over Ukraine laws, the decommunization laws that made it a criminal offense to insult Ukrainians who mass murdered Jews, Poles, and Communists during WW2 wouldn’t have happened in 2015. The Russian talk about denazification seems like a straight answer to the decommunization project that decided to glorify people who extreminated Jews, Poles, and Communists.
Tens of thousands are dead, and millions have fled their homes. The country may have lost all of its eastern provinces. That’s a heavy price to pay for whatever new political and psychological atmosphere was attained.
If Ukraine would have done what the West wanted they would have abided by the Minsk agreements. The far right in Ukraine and its militia (who did have a habit of attacking political gatherings) didn’t like the Minsk agreements and as a result, Ukraine didn’t abide by the agreements which is a key reason why the invasion in 2022 happened.
Maybe, if the West would have put more pressure on Ukraine to follow the West’s demands at protecting minority rights, the 2022 invasion could have been averted.