I’m not trying to be condescending, but a hundred thousand people have worked for the CIA since its inception—you need to pick a book written by one of those people, or a historian, or an investigative journalist, or a defector, or a state department official, or politician, and read it. You do not have an accurate and discrete enough mental model of the incentives and pressures of CIA work, or a strong enough understanding of what CIA officers take up the job for or do, and so you’re supposing plots that make no sense. I could sit here and go over them mechanically, but I suspect you will just move onto a hypothesis slightly more outwardly reasonable that I ultimately find the premise for to be ridiculous. If you want to suggest the current layers of congressional oversight of the CIA are just for show, then need to know what those layers are. Or maybe you need to try to tell a traffic officer that you’re a CIA officer and have the special bribing authority the next time he tries to give you a ticket and see how well that goes.
The CIA is not a person, and it’s unhelpful to think of it as if it were. Just because you perceive a moral equivalence between the MKULTRA program in the 1970s, or torture of foreign terrorist detainees during the 2000s, and the “bribing” of an American prison warden to facilitate the murder of a high profile American prisoner in 2019, doesn’t make the latter at all plausible. I’m not trying to argue with you about how ethical the CIA is or whether or not Mr. CIA has the moral compunctions to do such a thing, I’m trying to explain why I don’t think with 80% probability three or four low level rat handlers have the means or motive to arrange the murder of an American citizen inside the country’s highest security jail.
Epstein was hanging out with a variety of billionaires and other very powerful people. There’s no reason to assume that only low-level people had an incentive to get rid of him. It’s again a similar strawman as focusing on Alan Dershowitz as being the height of people with incentives to kill Epstein.
Let’s just agree to disagree then, at least until I write the next few posts in the sequence. Again, I do think it is at least more plausible that a billionaire or one of the friends he made outside of his contact with the CIA arranged a murder, I just find it too just-so that they had much authority over the prison or his death investigation. I could be wrong, but I don’t think I am.
I’m not trying to be condescending, but a hundred thousand people have worked for the CIA since its inception—you need to pick a book written by one of those people, or a historian, or an investigative journalist, or a defector, or a state department official, or politician, and read it. You do not have an accurate and discrete enough mental model of the incentives and pressures of CIA work, or a strong enough understanding of what CIA officers take up the job for or do, and so you’re supposing plots that make no sense. I could sit here and go over them mechanically, but I suspect you will just move onto a hypothesis slightly more outwardly reasonable that I ultimately find the premise for to be ridiculous. If you want to suggest the current layers of congressional oversight of the CIA are just for show, then need to know what those layers are. Or maybe you need to try to tell a traffic officer that you’re a CIA officer and have the special bribing authority the next time he tries to give you a ticket and see how well that goes.
The CIA is not a person, and it’s unhelpful to think of it as if it were. Just because you perceive a moral equivalence between the MKULTRA program in the 1970s, or torture of foreign terrorist detainees during the 2000s, and the “bribing” of an American prison warden to facilitate the murder of a high profile American prisoner in 2019, doesn’t make the latter at all plausible. I’m not trying to argue with you about how ethical the CIA is or whether or not Mr. CIA has the moral compunctions to do such a thing, I’m trying to explain why I don’t think with 80% probability three or four low level rat handlers have the means or motive to arrange the murder of an American citizen inside the country’s highest security jail.
Epstein was hanging out with a variety of billionaires and other very powerful people. There’s no reason to assume that only low-level people had an incentive to get rid of him. It’s again a similar strawman as focusing on Alan Dershowitz as being the height of people with incentives to kill Epstein.
Let’s just agree to disagree then, at least until I write the next few posts in the sequence. Again, I do think it is at least more plausible that a billionaire or one of the friends he made outside of his contact with the CIA arranged a murder, I just find it too just-so that they had much authority over the prison or his death investigation. I could be wrong, but I don’t think I am.