I believe this is largely due to the globalization of the economy, MAD, and proxy conflicts. Globalization makes cooperating extremely beneficial. MAD makes (D,C) states very costly in real wars (before nuclear and long ranged automated weapons, a decisive strike could result in a large advantage, now there is little advantage to a decisive strike, see Pearl Harbor as an example in the past). Most human entities are also not so called fanatical maximizers (tho some were, for example the Nazis who wanted endless conquest and extermination).
Maybe the argument doesn’t work for the UN, though that could also be bad luck. But people found organizations together all the time and I would be very surprised if that were not profitable.
People are not fanatical immortal maximizers that are robustly distributed with near unlimited regenerative properties. If we were I’d expect there to be exactly one person left on earth after an arbitrary amount of time.
That seems like an unrelated argument to me. The agents we are talking about here are also physically limited. Maybe they are more powerful, but they are presumably more powerful in some kind of sphere of influence, and they need to cooperate too. Sure, any analogy has to be proven tight, but I have proposed a model for that in the other comment.
Isn’t there a base assumption that agents are super intelligent, don’t “decay” I.e. they have infinite time horizons, they are maximizing EV, and would work fine alone?
There are fewer wars since about its foundation in 1945:
https://www.vox.com/2015/6/23/8832311/war-casualties-600-years
I believe this is largely due to the globalization of the economy, MAD, and proxy conflicts. Globalization makes cooperating extremely beneficial. MAD makes (D,C) states very costly in real wars (before nuclear and long ranged automated weapons, a decisive strike could result in a large advantage, now there is little advantage to a decisive strike, see Pearl Harbor as an example in the past). Most human entities are also not so called fanatical maximizers (tho some were, for example the Nazis who wanted endless conquest and extermination).
Maybe the argument doesn’t work for the UN, though that could also be bad luck. But people found organizations together all the time and I would be very surprised if that were not profitable.
People are not fanatical immortal maximizers that are robustly distributed with near unlimited regenerative properties. If we were I’d expect there to be exactly one person left on earth after an arbitrary amount of time.
That seems like an unrelated argument to me. The agents we are talking about here are also physically limited. Maybe they are more powerful, but they are presumably more powerful in some kind of sphere of influence, and they need to cooperate too. Sure, any analogy has to be proven tight, but I have proposed a model for that in the other comment.
Isn’t there a base assumption that agents are super intelligent, don’t “decay” I.e. they have infinite time horizons, they are maximizing EV, and would work fine alone?
No?
And even if they do not decay and have long time horizon, they would still benefit from collaborating with each other. This is about how they do that.