Re the straight male STEM nerds: shouldn’t that be a good market for women who are into that stuff regardless, due to the uneven gender ratios? Like, if a community is heavily male dominated in the gender ratio, then presumably women in the community will need less traditional attractiveness to be competitive (relative to other communities), even if the guys primarily cared about traditional attractiveness?
Man, I don’t doubt you’re telling the truth, but I find this bizarre. As a 22yo just starting his career, I would kill to go on a couple dates with some women “in the cluster”, I just mostly never get a chance to because I don’t know any such women.
The question is what tradeoffs you’d be willing to make in other virtues in order to find a women “in the cluster” who’s available and willing to date you. A young, beautiful, friendly, ethical, successful etc. STEM-oriented woman would be, according to these ideas, in high demand as a dating or marriage partner.
We might also consider that the STEM field, unlike many others, notoriously does not select for traits like looks, wit, humor, kindness, charisma, etc. It selects for intelligence, conscientiousness, and other traits relevant to science, engineering and math. If you’re looking more for a mate than a colleague when you go on dates, you might find the things one conventionally desires in a mate unusually enriched dating outside “the cluster,” where those traits are actively selected for in for example the service industry, and perhaps also being unusually depleted among available partners inside “the cluster” since being good at STEM is probably an attractive trait for people who are also into STEM.
The oldest woman I’ve ever dated was in her thirties. Forty would be a little weird, and I probably wouldn’t instigate, but if I thought she seemed open to it I wouldn’t rule it out.
Re the straight male STEM nerds: shouldn’t that be a good market for women who are into that stuff regardless, due to the uneven gender ratios? Like, if a community is heavily male dominated in the gender ratio, then presumably women in the community will need less traditional attractiveness to be competitive (relative to other communities), even if the guys primarily cared about traditional attractiveness?
That’s what I thought before, but now I think the men just date outside the community.
Man, I don’t doubt you’re telling the truth, but I find this bizarre. As a 22yo just starting his career, I would kill to go on a couple dates with some women “in the cluster”, I just mostly never get a chance to because I don’t know any such women.
The question is what tradeoffs you’d be willing to make in other virtues in order to find a women “in the cluster” who’s available and willing to date you. A young, beautiful, friendly, ethical, successful etc. STEM-oriented woman would be, according to these ideas, in high demand as a dating or marriage partner.
We might also consider that the STEM field, unlike many others, notoriously does not select for traits like looks, wit, humor, kindness, charisma, etc. It selects for intelligence, conscientiousness, and other traits relevant to science, engineering and math. If you’re looking more for a mate than a colleague when you go on dates, you might find the things one conventionally desires in a mate unusually enriched dating outside “the cluster,” where those traits are actively selected for in for example the service industry, and perhaps also being unusually depleted among available partners inside “the cluster” since being good at STEM is probably an attractive trait for people who are also into STEM.
Would you go on a date with a woman around 40 though? Tbh I would also have second thoughts about dating someone that much younger.
The oldest woman I’ve ever dated was in her thirties. Forty would be a little weird, and I probably wouldn’t instigate, but if I thought she seemed open to it I wouldn’t rule it out.