How much could LeelaPieceOdds be improved, in principle? I suspect a moderate but not huge amount. An easy change would be to increase the compute spent on the search.
A few points of note, stated with significant factual uncertainty: Leela*Odds has already improved to the tune of hundreds of elo from various changes over the last year or so. Leela is trained against Maia networks (human imitation), but doesn’t use Maia in its rollouts, either during inference or training. Until recently, the network also lacked contempt, so would actually perform worse past a small number of rollouts (~1000), as it would refute its best ideas. AFAIK Maia is stateless and doesn’t know the time control. Last I checked, only Knight and Queen odds games were trained, and IIUC while training only played as white, so most of these games require generalising its knowledge from that.
Well, I hope it continues to improve then! Would be super exciting to see a substantially better version.
How much would it cost to pay the people behind LeelaPieceOdds to give other games a similar treatment? Would it even be possible? I’d love to see a version for games like Catan or Eclipse or Innovation. Or better yet, for Starcraft or Advance Wars.
A few points of note, stated with significant factual uncertainty: Leela*Odds has already improved to the tune of hundreds of elo from various changes over the last year or so. Leela is trained against Maia networks (human imitation), but doesn’t use Maia in its rollouts, either during inference or training. Until recently, the network also lacked contempt, so would actually perform worse past a small number of rollouts (~1000), as it would refute its best ideas. AFAIK Maia is stateless and doesn’t know the time control. Last I checked, only Knight and Queen odds games were trained, and IIUC while training only played as white, so most of these games require generalising its knowledge from that.
Well, I hope it continues to improve then! Would be super exciting to see a substantially better version.
How much would it cost to pay the people behind LeelaPieceOdds to give other games a similar treatment? Would it even be possible? I’d love to see a version for games like Catan or Eclipse or Innovation. Or better yet, for Starcraft or Advance Wars.