gwern in my you in my mind one of the few individuals who usually walks his talk. Do you think it’s useful to use makeup? Do you use it yourself? Especially if you cite a paper that gender isn’t very important when it comes to the effects of beauty
I don’t use makeup at the moment, but I have two main reasons for this: I interact with few people so I expect my gains to be less than average, and I am revolted by the very idea of using cosmetics or working on my appearance. (I think it’s a mix of dislike of deception, laziness, and gender norms.)
The former is fine as far as it goes, but as far as the latter is concerned… I admit it is a bad reason; I’ve been trying to improve matters by small compromising steps which don’t trigger my dislike: purchasing better-looking glasses, improving my shaving routine, more regular exercise, throwing out the worst of my clothes.
I am revolted by the very idea of using cosmetics or working on my appearance. (I think it’s a mix of dislike of deception, laziness, and gender norms.)
It’s indeed a problem when you at the same time revolt against the idea of working on your appearance and think it’s a high benefit activity.
I think the solution is either to work out that working on your appearance goes against the values of yourself or to revolve the emotional issues and work at your appearance.
If you walk around and it’s clear that your appearance isn’t optimized because you don’t believe in doing so but could if you wanted to that’s respectable and can be a high status move. If you appear to be trying hard to work on your appearance and fail in doing anything because you revolt against the idea of working on your appearance that no sign of social status.
For myself the time when I put the most attention on my appearance was being 1 year into dancing Salsa. The activity gave me a new perception of my body and after I perceived I had internal motivation to improve. At the time I was also trying to optimize to effect other people with I’m not really anymore but I’m still not badly dressed. I’m no Zizek ;)
I don’t use makeup at the moment, but I have two main reasons for this: I interact with few people so I expect my gains to be less than average, and I am revolted by the very idea of using cosmetics or working on my appearance. (I think it’s a mix of dislike of deception, laziness, and gender norms.)
The former is fine as far as it goes, but as far as the latter is concerned… I admit it is a bad reason; I’ve been trying to improve matters by small compromising steps which don’t trigger my dislike: purchasing better-looking glasses, improving my shaving routine, more regular exercise, throwing out the worst of my clothes.
It’s indeed a problem when you at the same time revolt against the idea of working on your appearance and think it’s a high benefit activity.
I think the solution is either to work out that working on your appearance goes against the values of yourself or to revolve the emotional issues and work at your appearance.
If you walk around and it’s clear that your appearance isn’t optimized because you don’t believe in doing so but could if you wanted to that’s respectable and can be a high status move. If you appear to be trying hard to work on your appearance and fail in doing anything because you revolt against the idea of working on your appearance that no sign of social status.
For myself the time when I put the most attention on my appearance was being 1 year into dancing Salsa. The activity gave me a new perception of my body and after I perceived I had internal motivation to improve. At the time I was also trying to optimize to effect other people with I’m not really anymore but I’m still not badly dressed. I’m no Zizek ;)