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OC ACXLW Meetup: The Unbearable Accuracy of Stereotypes – August 16, 2025 Meeting #101
Date & time: Saturday, August 16, 2025, 2:00 p.m. (we’ll meander toward wrap-up around 5 to 6) Place: 1970 Port Laurent Place, Newport Beach, CA 92660 Host: Michael Michalchik — michaelmichalchik@gmail.com (949/375/2045)
The chapter argues that “stereotypes” should be defined neutrally as beliefs about attributes of social groups, not assumed false or malicious from the start. Accuracy is an empirical matter. It separates two levels that people often blur: (1) whether beliefs about group averages track reality and (2) whether you should apply those averages to individuals (often not).
To test accuracy, researchers compare beliefs to criteria using discrepancy (how close to the real numbers—treating ±10% as a practical “bull’s-eye,” ±10–20% a near miss) and correspondence (correlations of belief patterns with reality; r ≥ .40 counts as strong by social-science standards). It also distinguishes difference errors (exaggerating/understating gaps between groups) from elevation errors (over/underestimating everyone by the same amount), noting only the former really speaks to “stereotypes exaggerate differences.”
Bottom line: across domains (gender, race/ethnicity, etc.), many shared and personal stereotypes hit “accurate” or “near-miss” by these standards, with errors in both directions. The chapter doesn’t claim this is harmless; it insists that truth-value and ethics are separate axes. It doesn’t explain why group differences exist; it only asks whether beliefs match the best available criteria.
Questions to consider
What’s your biggest update from the chapter—something you thought was probably false that now seems more plausible? Which evidence moved you most (method, criterion quality, effect size)?
Does the neutral definition of “stereotype” help us think more clearly, or does it feel like laundering a loaded term? Where would you draw the boundary between “stereotype” and ordinary domain knowledge?
Are the proposed accuracy thresholds (±10%; r ≥ .40) reasonable for public claims, or too forgiving given social stakes? If you set the bar yourself, what would it be—and why?
The two-level problem: even if a group-level belief is right “on average,” when (if ever) is it fair or useful in judging an individual? Name a case where it clearly helps—and one where it clearly harms.
Which matters more for real-world damage: exaggerating differences or getting the overall level wrong for everyone? Bring a concrete example (media, medicine, education).
Suppose a true group pattern is socially flammable. Is there a way to communicate it that reduces misuse—or is silence sometimes the lesser evil?
What’s a stereotype you think is widely believed but wrong—and what evidence would change your mind?
If accuracy is one axis and ethics another, what’s your personal rule for keeping both in view during debate?
House rules for this one
We can be blunt and precise without being jerks.
No dunking; chase the strongest version of views.
Anyone can ask, “Can you give me an example?” if a claim gets foggy.
We can leave with more thoughtful questions; we don’t need a consensus.
If you’re new or short on time, skim the summary link above or listen to the audio and show up anyway. The whole point is to think out loud together.
House rules:
Be blunt and precise without being jerks.
No dunking; chase the strongest version of views.
Anyone can ask for an example if a claim gets foggy.
We can leave with more thoughtful questions; no consensus necessary.
If you’re new or short on time, skim the summary link above and show up anyway. The whole point is to think out loud together.
Conclusion
Join us for a deep dive into a controversial but essential question: when are stereotypes wrong, when are they right, and what should we do with that knowledge? Bring your curiosity—and your willingness to challenge assumptions.
OC ACXLW Meetup: The Unbearable Accuracy of Stereotypes – August 16, 2025 Meeting #101
OC ACXLW Meetup: The Unbearable Accuracy of Stereotypes – August 16, 2025 Meeting #101
Date & time: Saturday, August 16, 2025, 2:00 p.m. (we’ll meander toward wrap-up around 5 to 6)
Place: 1970 Port Laurent Place, Newport Beach, CA 92660
Host: Michael Michalchik — michaelmichalchik@gmail.com (949/375/2045)
Reading (one topic only this week):
The Unbearable Accuracy of Stereotypes — Jussim et al. — https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0lqrnaEkJWCbDYzNkZiLWNtV2M/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-gAPMcDFfuIuHvr4C1F-lOw
Recommended Audio quick orientation (16 minutes): AI-generated NotebookLM podcast-style summary — https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/37d2b4a5-660a-4769-b93d-f937cd6a8058?artifactId=0029cc61-35c0-4212-b8ff-c5c003eb1d07
Summary
The chapter argues that “stereotypes” should be defined neutrally as beliefs about attributes of social groups, not assumed false or malicious from the start. Accuracy is an empirical matter. It separates two levels that people often blur: (1) whether beliefs about group averages track reality and (2) whether you should apply those averages to individuals (often not).
To test accuracy, researchers compare beliefs to criteria using discrepancy (how close to the real numbers—treating ±10% as a practical “bull’s-eye,” ±10–20% a near miss) and correspondence (correlations of belief patterns with reality; r ≥ .40 counts as strong by social-science standards). It also distinguishes difference errors (exaggerating/understating gaps between groups) from elevation errors (over/underestimating everyone by the same amount), noting only the former really speaks to “stereotypes exaggerate differences.”
Bottom line: across domains (gender, race/ethnicity, etc.), many shared and personal stereotypes hit “accurate” or “near-miss” by these standards, with errors in both directions. The chapter doesn’t claim this is harmless; it insists that truth-value and ethics are separate axes. It doesn’t explain why group differences exist; it only asks whether beliefs match the best available criteria.
Questions to consider
What’s your biggest update from the chapter—something you thought was probably false that now seems more plausible? Which evidence moved you most (method, criterion quality, effect size)?
Does the neutral definition of “stereotype” help us think more clearly, or does it feel like laundering a loaded term? Where would you draw the boundary between “stereotype” and ordinary domain knowledge?
Are the proposed accuracy thresholds (±10%; r ≥ .40) reasonable for public claims, or too forgiving given social stakes? If you set the bar yourself, what would it be—and why?
The two-level problem: even if a group-level belief is right “on average,” when (if ever) is it fair or useful in judging an individual? Name a case where it clearly helps—and one where it clearly harms.
Which matters more for real-world damage: exaggerating differences or getting the overall level wrong for everyone? Bring a concrete example (media, medicine, education).
Suppose a true group pattern is socially flammable. Is there a way to communicate it that reduces misuse—or is silence sometimes the lesser evil?
What’s a stereotype you think is widely believed but wrong—and what evidence would change your mind?
If accuracy is one axis and ethics another, what’s your personal rule for keeping both in view during debate?
House rules for this one
We can be blunt and precise without being jerks.
No dunking; chase the strongest version of views.
Anyone can ask, “Can you give me an example?” if a claim gets foggy.
We can leave with more thoughtful questions; we don’t need a consensus.
If you’re new or short on time, skim the summary link above or listen to the audio and show up anyway. The whole point is to think out loud together.
House rules:
Be blunt and precise without being jerks.
No dunking; chase the strongest version of views.
Anyone can ask for an example if a claim gets foggy.
We can leave with more thoughtful questions; no consensus necessary.
If you’re new or short on time, skim the summary link above and show up anyway. The whole point is to think out loud together.
Conclusion
Join us for a deep dive into a controversial but essential question: when are stereotypes wrong, when are they right, and what should we do with that knowledge? Bring your curiosity—and your willingness to challenge assumptions.