So, several years ago I was moved by my primary dissatisfaction with HPMoR and my enjoyment of MLP to start a rationalist MLP fanfic. (There are at least two others, that occupied very different spheres, which I will get to in a bit.)
My main dissatisfaction with HPMoR was that Harry is almost always the teacher, not the student; relatedly, his cleverness far outstrips his wisdom. It is only at the very end, after he nearly loses everything, that he starts to realize how difficult it is to get things right, and even then he does not fully get it. Harry is the sort of character that the careful reader can learn from, but not the sort of character one should try to emulate.
MLP’s protagonist, Twilight Sparkle, is in many ways the opposite character: instead of being overconfident and arrogant, she is anxious and (generally) humble. Where Harry has difficulty seeing others as equals or useful, Twilight genuinely relies on her friends. Most of Harry’s positive characteristics, though, Twilight shares—or could plausibly share with little modification. (In HP terms, she’s basically what would have happen if bookish Hermione had been the Girl-Who-Lived, with the accompanying leadership potential, and Harry Potter, the athletic Gryffindor seeker, was just one of her friends.)
So I had the clever idea to write a series of five scenes where Twilight learned a rationality lesson from each of the other five primary characters (yes, even Pinkie Pie, and that one actually wasn’t hard to write). And then once I was thinking of a rationalist Twilight, an overall story formed around those scenes. I also wanted to write a story which had more of a Hansonian growth curve—yes, things are growing and a clever protagonist is constantly improving things around herself, but she’s not the only PC in the world, and doesn’t necessarily stand out as particularly effective. She might get a nice palace and lead a growing and exciting startup, but she’s not going to become the Singleton, and she’s more likely to have a bunch of exciting and energetic friends than be a lonely genius. (The primary two rationalist MLP fanfics that I’m aware of—not including any of PhilGoetz’s stuff—are one in which a pony-flavored Singleton dominates the real world, and one in which a HPMoR-esque protagonist drops into the MLP world and does HPMoR-esque things.)
But, since I’m not celebrating finishing that story, obviously things went wrong. The primary ones:
My first project was not something temporary. This is the advice they give for any physical craft—don’t make your first set of bookshelves for yourself, or your first scarf, or so on. You’re going to muck something up, and to this day my primary scarf has a bit of a trapezoidal slant at the end of it because I didn’t quite have the hang of how to crochet the end of a row. If I had made a dishrag to make my rookie mistakes on and then a scarf to wear, the scarf would have been fine. The application to fiction is obvious. Not only does it have deep problems, it isn’t even done. (I do have a finished, joke story written in response to one of Eliezer’s Facebook posts, which isn’t any better but is at least a complete work.)
As the above suggests, I’m not very good at writing fiction. Like most people who DMed at some point, I did a fair bit of it when I was younger—but it never ascended to full hobby status. Arguing and forum-posting did, but that’s a fairly different skill.
Continuing the trend, I don’t find writing fiction all that rewarding. PhilGoetz, at some point, described himself as having to write. Perhaps the same is true of me, but I find that urge adequately satisfied by nonfiction, and I suspect the world is better off with another book review or an introductory causality lesson plan / textbook than it is with another piece of rationalist fiction (conditioned on me writing it, at least).
But with HPMoR finished, I feel the itch again. Especially in the light of the Final Exam and its resolution. (As Sun Tzu put it, “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.”) But just diving into it again because the itch has returned does not a plan for success make. Here are the things I’m thinking about (and please, feel free to suggest other things to think about):
Finish the original idea—the five chapters where Twilight learns a lesson from each of her friends—and publish it as its own work. (This is mostly done, and would just need some editing.) Gradually build out the full story as a separate thing when you have the time and interest.
Seek more serious help from other writers—not just editing, but possibly full coauthorship, or sliding further down the scale towards commissions. (I haven’t fully sorted out my priorities here, but I think I care enough to use some units of caring on this.)
Drop this idea as less valuable than other projects. I don’t have the introspection ability to be sure about energy/motivation, but I suspect this would draw from the same motivation budget as nonfiction writing projects, and it certainly would draw from the same time budget.
(By the way, here is the link to it; I last updated it about a year ago.)
As you said, the story is mostly done and just needs editing. That will require help from other people and can happen while you do other things. It will be good for you to be able to say “Behold, I have finished this thing.”
At the same time, as you tackle the full story as a separate thing, it may be worth giving it your best effort (by pulling in #2) so that after a few months, you can say “I tried really hard and it didn’t work. Alas. Time to stop.” or the opposite, without having to wonder if you just didn’t try hard enough.
So, several years ago I was moved by my primary dissatisfaction with HPMoR and my enjoyment of MLP to start a rationalist MLP fanfic. (There are at least two others, that occupied very different spheres, which I will get to in a bit.)
My main dissatisfaction with HPMoR was that Harry is almost always the teacher, not the student; relatedly, his cleverness far outstrips his wisdom. It is only at the very end, after he nearly loses everything, that he starts to realize how difficult it is to get things right, and even then he does not fully get it. Harry is the sort of character that the careful reader can learn from, but not the sort of character one should try to emulate.
MLP’s protagonist, Twilight Sparkle, is in many ways the opposite character: instead of being overconfident and arrogant, she is anxious and (generally) humble. Where Harry has difficulty seeing others as equals or useful, Twilight genuinely relies on her friends. Most of Harry’s positive characteristics, though, Twilight shares—or could plausibly share with little modification. (In HP terms, she’s basically what would have happen if bookish Hermione had been the Girl-Who-Lived, with the accompanying leadership potential, and Harry Potter, the athletic Gryffindor seeker, was just one of her friends.)
So I had the clever idea to write a series of five scenes where Twilight learned a rationality lesson from each of the other five primary characters (yes, even Pinkie Pie, and that one actually wasn’t hard to write). And then once I was thinking of a rationalist Twilight, an overall story formed around those scenes. I also wanted to write a story which had more of a Hansonian growth curve—yes, things are growing and a clever protagonist is constantly improving things around herself, but she’s not the only PC in the world, and doesn’t necessarily stand out as particularly effective. She might get a nice palace and lead a growing and exciting startup, but she’s not going to become the Singleton, and she’s more likely to have a bunch of exciting and energetic friends than be a lonely genius. (The primary two rationalist MLP fanfics that I’m aware of—not including any of PhilGoetz’s stuff—are one in which a pony-flavored Singleton dominates the real world, and one in which a HPMoR-esque protagonist drops into the MLP world and does HPMoR-esque things.)
But, since I’m not celebrating finishing that story, obviously things went wrong. The primary ones:
My first project was not something temporary. This is the advice they give for any physical craft—don’t make your first set of bookshelves for yourself, or your first scarf, or so on. You’re going to muck something up, and to this day my primary scarf has a bit of a trapezoidal slant at the end of it because I didn’t quite have the hang of how to crochet the end of a row. If I had made a dishrag to make my rookie mistakes on and then a scarf to wear, the scarf would have been fine. The application to fiction is obvious. Not only does it have deep problems, it isn’t even done. (I do have a finished, joke story written in response to one of Eliezer’s Facebook posts, which isn’t any better but is at least a complete work.)
As the above suggests, I’m not very good at writing fiction. Like most people who DMed at some point, I did a fair bit of it when I was younger—but it never ascended to full hobby status. Arguing and forum-posting did, but that’s a fairly different skill.
Continuing the trend, I don’t find writing fiction all that rewarding. PhilGoetz, at some point, described himself as having to write. Perhaps the same is true of me, but I find that urge adequately satisfied by nonfiction, and I suspect the world is better off with another book review or an introductory causality lesson plan / textbook than it is with another piece of rationalist fiction (conditioned on me writing it, at least).
But with HPMoR finished, I feel the itch again. Especially in the light of the Final Exam and its resolution. (As Sun Tzu put it, “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.”) But just diving into it again because the itch has returned does not a plan for success make. Here are the things I’m thinking about (and please, feel free to suggest other things to think about):
Finish the original idea—the five chapters where Twilight learns a lesson from each of her friends—and publish it as its own work. (This is mostly done, and would just need some editing.) Gradually build out the full story as a separate thing when you have the time and interest.
Seek more serious help from other writers—not just editing, but possibly full coauthorship, or sliding further down the scale towards commissions. (I haven’t fully sorted out my priorities here, but I think I care enough to use some units of caring on this.)
Drop this idea as less valuable than other projects. I don’t have the introspection ability to be sure about energy/motivation, but I suspect this would draw from the same motivation budget as nonfiction writing projects, and it certainly would draw from the same time budget.
(By the way, here is the link to it; I last updated it about a year ago.)
I have not read your story yet, but if I wait till I get around to it, I will forget to inform you that I have been known to accept commissions.
I suggest doing #1 and #2 in parallel.
As you said, the story is mostly done and just needs editing. That will require help from other people and can happen while you do other things. It will be good for you to be able to say “Behold, I have finished this thing.”
At the same time, as you tackle the full story as a separate thing, it may be worth giving it your best effort (by pulling in #2) so that after a few months, you can say “I tried really hard and it didn’t work. Alas. Time to stop.” or the opposite, without having to wonder if you just didn’t try hard enough.