I feel torn because I agree that unconscious intent is incredibly important to straighten out, but also think
1. everyone else is relatively decent at blaming them for their poor intent in the meantime (though there are some cases I’d like to see people catch onto faster), and
2. this is mostly between the person and themselves.
It seems like you’re advocating for people to be publicly shamed more for their unconscious bad intentions, and this seems both super bad for social fabric (and witch-hunt-permitting) while imo not adding very much capacity to change due to point (2), and would be much better accomplished by a culture of forgiveness such that the elephant lets people look at it. Are there parts of this you strongly disagree with?
I’m not in favor of shaming people. I’m strongly in favor of forgiveness. Justice in the current context requires forgiveness because of how thoroughly the forces of deception have prevailed, and how motivated people are to extend coverups to avoid punishment. Law fought fraud, and fraud won.
It’s important to be very clear on what actually happened (incl. about violations), AND to avoid punishing people. Truth and reconciliation.
Justice in the current context requires forgiveness because of how thoroughly the forces of deception have prevailed, and how motivated people are to extend coverups to avoid punishment. Law fought fraud, and fraud won.
This seems really important for understanding where you’re at, and I don’t get it yet.
I would love a concrete example of people being motivated to extend coverups to avoid punishment.
It’s important to be very clear on what actually happened (incl. about violations), AND to avoid punishing people. Truth and reconciliation.
I think this a very much underrated avenue to improve lots of things. I’m a little sad at the thought that neither are likely without the looming threat of possible punishment.
I feel torn because I agree that unconscious intent is incredibly important to straighten out, but also think
1. everyone else is relatively decent at blaming them for their poor intent in the meantime (though there are some cases I’d like to see people catch onto faster), and
2. this is mostly between the person and themselves.
It seems like you’re advocating for people to be publicly shamed more for their unconscious bad intentions, and this seems both super bad for social fabric (and witch-hunt-permitting) while imo not adding very much capacity to change due to point (2), and would be much better accomplished by a culture of forgiveness such that the elephant lets people look at it. Are there parts of this you strongly disagree with?
I’m not in favor of shaming people. I’m strongly in favor of forgiveness. Justice in the current context requires forgiveness because of how thoroughly the forces of deception have prevailed, and how motivated people are to extend coverups to avoid punishment. Law fought fraud, and fraud won.
It’s important to be very clear on what actually happened (incl. about violations), AND to avoid punishing people. Truth and reconciliation.
This seems really important for understanding where you’re at, and I don’t get it yet.
I would love a concrete example of people being motivated to extend coverups to avoid punishment.
Do you have writings I should read?
Jeffrey Epstein
I think this a very much underrated avenue to improve lots of things. I’m a little sad at the thought that neither are likely without the looming threat of possible punishment.