I’ll say (as a guy who just wrote a very pro-book post) that this vibe feels off to me. (I’m not sure if any particular sentence seems definitely wrong, but, it feels like it’s coming from a generator that I think is wrong)
I think Eliezer/Nate were deliberately not attempting to make the book some kind of broad thing the whole community could rally behind. They might have done so, but, they didn’t. So, complaining about “why our kind can’t cooperate” doesn’t actually feel right to me in this instance.
(I think there’s some kind of subtle “why we can’t cooperate” thing that is still relevant, but, it’s less like “YOU SHOULD ALL BE COOPERATING” and more like “some people should notice that something is weird about the way they’re sort of… ostentatiously not cooperating?”. Where I’m not so much frustrated at them “not cooperating,” more frustrated at the weirdness of the dynamics around the ostentatiousness. (This sentence still isn’t quite right, but, I’mma leave it there for no)
I think Eliezer/Nate were deliberately not attempting to make the book some kind of broad thing the whole community could rally behind. They might have done so, but, they didn’t.
IMO they missed their opportunity and now LW is missing its/our opportunity, and either side naturally thinks it’s more the other’s fault.
I’ll say (as a guy who just wrote a very pro-book post) that this vibe feels off to me. (I’m not sure if any particular sentence seems definitely wrong, but, it feels like it’s coming from a generator that I think is wrong)
I think Eliezer/Nate were deliberately not attempting to make the book some kind of broad thing the whole community could rally behind. They might have done so, but, they didn’t. So, complaining about “why our kind can’t cooperate” doesn’t actually feel right to me in this instance.
(I think there’s some kind of subtle “why we can’t cooperate” thing that is still relevant, but, it’s less like “YOU SHOULD ALL BE COOPERATING” and more like “some people should notice that something is weird about the way they’re sort of… ostentatiously not cooperating?”. Where I’m not so much frustrated at them “not cooperating,” more frustrated at the weirdness of the dynamics around the ostentatiousness. (This sentence still isn’t quite right, but, I’mma leave it there for no)
IMO they missed their opportunity and now LW is missing its/our opportunity, and either side naturally thinks it’s more the other’s fault.