Holonomy—a closed loop which changes things that move around it. I think consciousness is generally built out of a bunch of holonomies which take sense data, change the information in the sense data while remaining unchanged itself, and shuttle it off for more processing. In a sense, genes and memes are holonomies operating at a bigger scale, reproducing across groups of humans rather than merely groups of neurons.
Russell’s vicious circle principle—self-reference invariably leads to logical contradictions. This means an awareness of self-referential consciousness (or phenomenological experience) cannot be a perfect awareness, you must be compressing some of the ‘self’ when you refer to yourself.
Yeah. Holonomy is applicable: A stable recursive loop that keeps reshaping the data passing through it. But what we need on top of holonomy is that self-reference in a physical system always hits an opacity limit. And I think this is what you mean but your reference to Russell’s vicious-circle: It leads to contradictions because of incremental loss.
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Holonomy—a closed loop which changes things that move around it. I think consciousness is generally built out of a bunch of holonomies which take sense data, change the information in the sense data while remaining unchanged itself, and shuttle it off for more processing. In a sense, genes and memes are holonomies operating at a bigger scale, reproducing across groups of humans rather than merely groups of neurons.
Russell’s vicious circle principle—self-reference invariably leads to logical contradictions. This means an awareness of self-referential consciousness (or phenomenological experience) cannot be a perfect awareness, you must be compressing some of the ‘self’ when you refer to yourself.
Yeah. Holonomy is applicable: A stable recursive loop that keeps reshaping the data passing through it. But what we need on top of holonomy is that self-reference in a physical system always hits an opacity limit. And I think this is what you mean but your reference to Russell’s vicious-circle: It leads to contradictions because of incremental loss.
Though I wonder if maybe we can Escape the Löbian Obstacle.