This is precisely what I was going to suggest; I had a very nice game of it just last night.
Indeed (says AstroCJ, going on to discuss strategy, but not rules of the game), I think… hmm. This might actually be worth a top-level post. Since I’m going to dispense with all pretence of obeying “the rules”, I’ll rot13 the rest of this post. We never played the no talking variant either.
Fb, yrg hf fcbvy gur zlfgrel nf dhvpxyl nf cbffvoyr:
Znb vf n tnzr va juvpu gurer vf na rnfl (vfu) zrpunavfz sbe rnpu crefba gb zbqvsl gur ehyrf bs gur tnzr. V’yy qrfpevor n fnzcyr tnzr dhvpxyl.
Cernzoyr/Ehyrf:
Gurer ner n ahzore bs cynlref naq gurl rnpu gnxr n ahzore bs pneqf. Gurl gura cynl gurfr pneqf nppbeqvat gb n onfr frg bs ehyrf; zl snibherq inevnag vf bar jurer gur bayl onfr ehyrf ner “sbyybj ahzore be fhvg”, ohg zl tebhc bs sevraqf abeznyyl cersref n fyvtugyl zber pbzcyvpngrq frg. Oernxvat n ehyr vaphef n zvabe cranygl, fhpu nf qenjvat n pneq.
Jura lbh trg evq bs lbhe pneqf, lbh ner tvira bar-fubg cbjre gb zbqrengryl nygre gur tnzr, naq znl nqq, zbqvsl be erzbir n ehyr. Lbh gura erwbva gur tnzr naq ortva rasbepvat vg. Ab-bar vf gbyq jung guvf ehyr vf; rkcynvavat nal bs gur ehyrf vf ntnvafg gur fcvevg bs gur tnzr naq vaphef n zvabe cranygl.
Qvfphffvba:
Znb, nf qrfpevorq, qbrf abg fbhaq yvxr vg zhfg or sha. Guvf vf ragveryl gehr. V’yy nggrzcg gb tvir n yvfg bs gur ernfbaf oruvaq cynlvat gur tnzr:
Bar rawblf fbyivat chmmyrf. Bar rawblf frggvat chmmyrf. Bar rawblf tvivat uvagf gb chmmyrf. Bar rawblf frrvat bar’f sevraqf ynl gur Dhrra bs Urnegf naq fdhrny, “va gur znaare bs n qehax cvt”, na vpr pernz synibhe bs gurve pubvpr[1].
Fb, gurfr frrz yvxr npprcgnoyr guvatf gb rawbl juvpu ner pregnvayl cerfrag va Znb. Fb, jul nz V jevgvat guvf sbe yrffjebat va fhpu qrgnvy? Jryy, V guvax gung vg sbeprf bar gb:
Haqrefgnaq jura lbhe sevraqf ner abg univat sha (v.r. lbh’ir abg qbar bar bs gur sbyybjvat, naq guvatf unir tbar jebat.) Abg sbez ulcbgurfvf gbb dhvpxyl naq grfg ntnvafg gurz rkunhfgviryl engure guna ybbxvat ng gur rivqrapr. Abg frg chmmyrf gung ner gbb uneq sbe fbzrbar ryfr gb haqrefgnaq (Uz. “Pbzzhavpngr nccebcevngryl”?). Abg nggrzcg gb pbageby gur fvghngvba orlbaq jung bar pna qb (r.t. n ehyr gung vf bs gur sbez “Vs {Gur ahzrevpny inyhr bs gur ynfg guerr pneqf ynvq rnpu funer bar cevzr snpgbe jvgu rnpu bs gur bguref, ohg unir ab cevzr snpgbe pbzzba gb nyy guerr, cebivqrq gurl ner nyy “oynpx”} Gura {Gur fhvgf plpyr nebhaq nycunorgvpnyyl, gnxvat jvgu gurz gur dhnyvgl bs orvat “oynpx” be “erq”—guvf nssrpgf nyy bgure ehyrf onfrq ba “fhvg” be “pbybhe”}”) fubhyq ABG or ranpgrq. Lbh unir yvzvgngvbaf! [2] * Lbhe ehyrf znl vagrenpg jvgu bgure crbcyr’f ehyrf va fhecevfvat jnlf[3] - bar bhtug abg guvax gung bar znl cerqvpg gur shgher be eryl ba jung bgure crbcyr’f npgvbaf ner, fb vagragvbanyyl erylvat ba fbzrguvat gung lbh qba’g xabj vf sbbyvfu, naq vagragvbanyyl vagresrevat jvgu fbzrguvat lbh qba’g haqrefgnaq rira zber fb[4].
Va fhzznel, vs lbh jnag n tnzr va juvpu lbh ner pbafgnagyl univat gb gnxr va rivqrapr naq haqrefgnaq jung’f tbvat ba, Znb vf gur tnzr sbe lbh. Vg’f nyfb n terng tnzr sbe haqrefgnaqvat jung pbafgvghgrf orvat n qvpx.
[1] Abj n zrzbel vaqryvoyl nffbpvngrq jvgu gung sevraq. [oynaxrq] [2] Lrf, V unir cynlrq n tnzr bs Znb va juvpu guvf sbez bs ehyr jnf hfrq. [3] Pna or onq naq pbashfvat, be ryrtnag naq qryvpvbhf! [4] R.t. gur tnzr jurer gurer jrer GJB ehyrf gung plpyrq fhvgf, jurer OBGU eryvrq ba gur fhvg bs gur pneq ynfg cynlrq. Qb lbh rinyhngr gurz obgu ng bapr? Bar nsgre gur bgure? Gur bgure nsgre bar? Arvgure? V guvax “Arvgure”.
Woah, you’re kidding, right? I’ve never not played with a “no talking outside of Point of Order” rule. How would it even work if you can say things all the time, and thereby avoid learning when you’re actually required to say them?
Oh, and I get a card for saying P of O during P of O, and another for talking about the rules.
I think we learned different variants.
I’d have been shocked if we didn’t.
Yes, that particular game seems to have a very high mutation rate. It almost seems to be designed to be an example of a highly mutable meme.
(Incidentally, if one wants to play a game explicitly about figuring out the rules that isn’t silly like Mao I’d recommend Zendo.)
In-game chatter! Penalties all around.
Not that we ever actually played that variant, too obnoxious
This is precisely what I was going to suggest; I had a very nice game of it just last night.
Indeed (says AstroCJ, going on to discuss strategy, but not rules of the game), I think… hmm. This might actually be worth a top-level post. Since I’m going to dispense with all pretence of obeying “the rules”, I’ll rot13 the rest of this post. We never played the no talking variant either.
Fb, yrg hf fcbvy gur zlfgrel nf dhvpxyl nf cbffvoyr:
Znb vf n tnzr va juvpu gurer vf na rnfl (vfu) zrpunavfz sbe rnpu crefba gb zbqvsl gur ehyrf bs gur tnzr. V’yy qrfpevor n fnzcyr tnzr dhvpxyl.
Cernzoyr/Ehyrf:
Gurer ner n ahzore bs cynlref naq gurl rnpu gnxr n ahzore bs pneqf. Gurl gura cynl gurfr pneqf nppbeqvat gb n onfr frg bs ehyrf; zl snibherq inevnag vf bar jurer gur bayl onfr ehyrf ner “sbyybj ahzore be fhvg”, ohg zl tebhc bs sevraqf abeznyyl cersref n fyvtugyl zber pbzcyvpngrq frg. Oernxvat n ehyr vaphef n zvabe cranygl, fhpu nf qenjvat n pneq.
Jura lbh trg evq bs lbhe pneqf, lbh ner tvira bar-fubg cbjre gb zbqrengryl nygre gur tnzr, naq znl nqq, zbqvsl be erzbir n ehyr. Lbh gura erwbva gur tnzr naq ortva rasbepvat vg. Ab-bar vf gbyq jung guvf ehyr vf; rkcynvavat nal bs gur ehyrf vf ntnvafg gur fcvevg bs gur tnzr naq vaphef n zvabe cranygl.
Qvfphffvba:
Znb, nf qrfpevorq, qbrf abg fbhaq yvxr vg zhfg or sha. Guvf vf ragveryl gehr. V’yy nggrzcg gb tvir n yvfg bs gur ernfbaf oruvaq cynlvat gur tnzr:
Bar rawblf fbyivat chmmyrf. Bar rawblf frggvat chmmyrf. Bar rawblf tvivat uvagf gb chmmyrf. Bar rawblf frrvat bar’f sevraqf ynl gur Dhrra bs Urnegf naq fdhrny, “va gur znaare bs n qehax cvt”, na vpr pernz synibhe bs gurve pubvpr[1].
Fb, gurfr frrz yvxr npprcgnoyr guvatf gb rawbl juvpu ner pregnvayl cerfrag va Znb. Fb, jul nz V jevgvat guvf sbe yrffjebat va fhpu qrgnvy? Jryy, V guvax gung vg sbeprf bar gb:
Haqrefgnaq jura lbhe sevraqf ner abg univat sha (v.r. lbh’ir abg qbar bar bs gur sbyybjvat, naq guvatf unir tbar jebat.) Abg sbez ulcbgurfvf gbb dhvpxyl naq grfg ntnvafg gurz rkunhfgviryl engure guna ybbxvat ng gur rivqrapr. Abg frg chmmyrf gung ner gbb uneq sbe fbzrbar ryfr gb haqrefgnaq (Uz. “Pbzzhavpngr nccebcevngryl”?). Abg nggrzcg gb pbageby gur fvghngvba orlbaq jung bar pna qb (r.t. n ehyr gung vf bs gur sbez “Vs {Gur ahzrevpny inyhr bs gur ynfg guerr pneqf ynvq rnpu funer bar cevzr snpgbe jvgu rnpu bs gur bguref, ohg unir ab cevzr snpgbe pbzzba gb nyy guerr, cebivqrq gurl ner nyy “oynpx”} Gura {Gur fhvgf plpyr nebhaq nycunorgvpnyyl, gnxvat jvgu gurz gur dhnyvgl bs orvat “oynpx” be “erq”—guvf nssrpgf nyy bgure ehyrf onfrq ba “fhvg” be “pbybhe”}”) fubhyq ABG or ranpgrq. Lbh unir yvzvgngvbaf! [2] * Lbhe ehyrf znl vagrenpg jvgu bgure crbcyr’f ehyrf va fhecevfvat jnlf[3] - bar bhtug abg guvax gung bar znl cerqvpg gur shgher be eryl ba jung bgure crbcyr’f npgvbaf ner, fb vagragvbanyyl erylvat ba fbzrguvat gung lbh qba’g xabj vf sbbyvfu, naq vagragvbanyyl vagresrevat jvgu fbzrguvat lbh qba’g haqrefgnaq rira zber fb[4].
Va fhzznel, vs lbh jnag n tnzr va juvpu lbh ner pbafgnagyl univat gb gnxr va rivqrapr naq haqrefgnaq jung’f tbvat ba, Znb vf gur tnzr sbe lbh. Vg’f nyfb n terng tnzr sbe haqrefgnaqvat jung pbafgvghgrf orvat n qvpx.
[1] Abj n zrzbel vaqryvoyl nffbpvngrq jvgu gung sevraq. [oynaxrq] [2] Lrf, V unir cynlrq n tnzr bs Znb va juvpu guvf sbez bs ehyr jnf hfrq. [3] Pna or onq naq pbashfvat, be ryrtnag naq qryvpvbhf! [4] R.t. gur tnzr jurer gurer jrer GJB ehyrf gung plpyrq fhvgf, jurer OBGU eryvrq ba gur fhvg bs gur pneq ynfg cynlrq. Qb lbh rinyhngr gurz obgu ng bapr? Bar nsgre gur bgure? Gur bgure nsgre bar? Arvgure? V guvax “Arvgure”.
Woah, you’re kidding, right? I’ve never not played with a “no talking outside of Point of Order” rule. How would it even work if you can say things all the time, and thereby avoid learning when you’re actually required to say them?
Oh, and I get a card for saying P of O during P of O, and another for talking about the rules.
It’s usually clear when one says something intended to interact with the mechanics of the game (e.g. saying “That’s the badger” on the Two of Clubs).
End P of O.
grin
Teehee …. “End P of O” is just an abbreviation for the code to actually end a p. of o. (card to self for talking about the rules).
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