Roko Uses analytic philosophy: understand the habits of thought taught in analytic philosophy; the habit of following out lines of thought, of taking on one issue at a time, of searching for counter-examples, and of carefully keeping distinct concepts distinct (e.g. not confusing heat and temperature; free will and lack of determinism; systems for talking about Peano arithmetic and systems for talking about systems for talking about Peano arithmetic).
Well for one thing, there appear to be non-deterministic systems (possibly real ones, definitely conceived ones) that we would never say have free will. If x is a radioactive atom whether or not it decays in the next minute is undetermined. But the atom does not have free will. And actually, it is hard to make sense of what free will would be if it was just a lack of determinism since the extent to which an event is undetermined is also the extent to which it is random. One cannot control something that is random. But free will means having control over our actions. Ergo: if our actions are free they cannot be undetermined.
(And I know the particle decay picture is resolved differently with MW, but we don’t have any other non-deterministic systems to talk about.)
The fact that you can ask the question “is free will compatible with physical determinism?” means that free will and lack of determinism are, a priori, distinct concepts.
it does seem to show that “fairy” and “leprechaun” are distinct concepts, which is not entirely a contentless statement.
But everyone knows that LEPRecon (Lower Elements Police reconnaissance division) is a job title and leprechauns are, in fact, fairies. This leads me to approximate the question and answer “most leprechauns are above average fairy height”. This is to be expected for cops in general, above or below ground.
It seems that even if leprechauns are fairies the concepts are distinct.
Roko Uses analytic philosophy: understand the habits of thought taught in analytic philosophy; the habit of following out lines of thought, of taking on one issue at a time, of searching for counter-examples, and of carefully keeping distinct concepts distinct (e.g. not confusing heat and temperature; free will and lack of determinism; systems for talking about Peano arithmetic and systems for talking about systems for talking about Peano arithmetic).
What is the difference between free will and lack of determinism? What’s the definition of free will?
Well for one thing, there appear to be non-deterministic systems (possibly real ones, definitely conceived ones) that we would never say have free will. If x is a radioactive atom whether or not it decays in the next minute is undetermined. But the atom does not have free will. And actually, it is hard to make sense of what free will would be if it was just a lack of determinism since the extent to which an event is undetermined is also the extent to which it is random. One cannot control something that is random. But free will means having control over our actions. Ergo: if our actions are free they cannot be undetermined.
(And I know the particle decay picture is resolved differently with MW, but we don’t have any other non-deterministic systems to talk about.)
See the SEP on compatibilism
The fact that you can ask the question “is free will compatible with physical determinism?” means that free will and lack of determinism are, a priori, distinct concepts.
Hmm. You can ask the question: “are most leprechauns taller than fairies?” too.
In itself, asking questions doesn’t prove very much.
Yes. p=0.95.
it does seem to show that “fairy” and “leprechaun” are distinct concepts, which is not entirely a contentless statement.
The point was that merely asking a question proves very little.
For another example, one can ask whether felines are smarter than cats (on average).
That’s a coherent question—and its answer is “no”.
But everyone knows that LEPRecon (Lower Elements Police reconnaissance division) is a job title and leprechauns are, in fact, fairies. This leads me to approximate the question and answer “most leprechauns are above average fairy height”. This is to be expected for cops in general, above or below ground.
It seems that even if leprechauns are fairies the concepts are distinct.