I still think that it’s silly, because the common justification given for the position is highly suspect and borderline sophistry, and is, I suspect, not the causal reason for the values it purports to justify.
Yet because of moral antirealism, the mistake is subtle. And I have yet to find a critique of antinatalism that actually gives the correct (in my view) rebuttal. Most people who try to rebut it seem to also offer arguments that are tantamount sophistry, i.e. they are not the causal reason for the person disagreeing with the view.
And I worry, an I making a similarly subtle mistake? And as a contrarian with few good critics, would anyone present me with the correct counterargument?
I still think that it’s silly, because the common justification given for the position is highly suspect and borderline sophistry, and is, I suspect, not the causal reason for the values it purports to justify.
I’m curious what you think the causal justification is. I’m not a fan of imputing motives to people I disagree with rather than dealing with their arguments but one can’t help but notice that Heinrich Heine was paralyzed, blind and in constant pain for the last decade of his life. Moreover, his religious beliefs prevented him from committing suicide. In that context, antinatalism just in regards to one’s own life seems to make some sense. Thus one might think of antinatalism as arising in part from Other Optimizing
but one can’t help but notice that Heinrich Heine was paralyzed, blind and in constant pain for the last decade of his life. Moreover, his religious beliefs prevented him from committing suicide.
I promise that I genuinely did not know that when I wrote “I suspect, not the causal reason for the values it purports to justify.” and thought “these people were just born with low happiness set points and they’re rationalizing”
I still think that it’s silly, because the common justification given for the position is highly suspect and borderline sophistry, and is, I suspect, not the causal reason for the values it purports to justify.
Yet because of moral antirealism, the mistake is subtle. And I have yet to find a critique of antinatalism that actually gives the correct (in my view) rebuttal. Most people who try to rebut it seem to also offer arguments that are tantamount sophistry, i.e. they are not the causal reason for the person disagreeing with the view.
And I worry, an I making a similarly subtle mistake? And as a contrarian with few good critics, would anyone present me with the correct counterargument?
I’m curious what you think the causal justification is. I’m not a fan of imputing motives to people I disagree with rather than dealing with their arguments but one can’t help but notice that Heinrich Heine was paralyzed, blind and in constant pain for the last decade of his life. Moreover, his religious beliefs prevented him from committing suicide. In that context, antinatalism just in regards to one’s own life seems to make some sense. Thus one might think of antinatalism as arising in part from Other Optimizing
I promise that I genuinely did not know that when I wrote “I suspect, not the causal reason for the values it purports to justify.” and thought “these people were just born with low happiness set points and they’re rationalizing”