Not quite responding to your main point here, but I’ll say that this position would seem valid to me and good to say if you believed it.
Some people make major self-sacrifices wisely, and others for poor reasons and due to misaligned social pressures. I feel that this is an example of the latter, so I do not endorse it, I think people who care about this issue should not endorse it, and I hope someone helps them and they stop.
I don’t know what personal life tradeoffs any of them are making, so I have a hard time speaking to that. I just found out that Michael Trazzi is one of the people doing a hunger strike; I don’t think it’s true of him that he hasn’t thought seriously about the issues given how he’s been intellectually engaged for 5+ years.
(Social movements (and comms and politics) are not easy to reason about well from first principles. I think Michael is wrong to be making this particular self-sacrifice, not because he hasn’t thought carefully about AI but because he hasn’t thought carefully about hunger strikes.)
Relevantly, if any of them actually die, and if also it does not cause major change and outcry, I will probably think they made a foolish choice (where ‘foolish’ means ‘should have known in advance this was the wrong call on a majorly important decision’).
My modal guess is that they will all make real sacrifice, and stick it out for 10-20 days, then wrap up.
Not quite responding to your main point here, but I’ll say that this position would seem valid to me and good to say if you believed it.
I don’t know what personal life tradeoffs any of them are making, so I have a hard time speaking to that. I just found out that Michael Trazzi is one of the people doing a hunger strike; I don’t think it’s true of him that he hasn’t thought seriously about the issues given how he’s been intellectually engaged for 5+ years.
Yep, I basically believe this.
(Social movements (and comms and politics) are not easy to reason about well from first principles. I think Michael is wrong to be making this particular self-sacrifice, not because he hasn’t thought carefully about AI but because he hasn’t thought carefully about hunger strikes.)
Relevantly, if any of them actually die, and if also it does not cause major change and outcry, I will probably think they made a foolish choice (where ‘foolish’ means ‘should have known in advance this was the wrong call on a majorly important decision’).
My modal guess is that they will all make real sacrifice, and stick it out for 10-20 days, then wrap up.