I wanted to briefly note for now that LW moderators are tracking this thread. Some of us may end up writing more of our thoughts later.
I think it’s good for people to be sharing their experiences. I’m glad Turntrout and KurtB shared their stories. I’m glad So8res responded with his experience/context. I generally feel quite good about people sharing information like this.
I feel a bit wary of any specific recommendations necessarily helping – I think often situations like this are just actually pretty tricky/nuanced and involve a lot more significant tradeoffs than it may seem. (Still seems fine for people to write up their own wishes, or guesses about what would help, I just think it’s just useful to keep in mind that it may be more complicated that it seems at first glance)
I haven’t personally interacted with Nate much, but I’ve had some experiences similar to things Turntrout described with other people I respect. I might have some useful things to say about some of the patterns involved, thought it may take awhile to write up and might end up being a separate top-level post.
I think often situations like this are just actually pretty tricky/nuanced and involve a lot more significant tradeoffs than it may seem. (Still seems fine for people to write up their own wishes, or guesses about what would help, I just think it’s just useful to keep in mind that it may be more complicated that it seems at first glance)
For my part, I predict (85%) that this sentiment will age at least somewhat poorly, looking back one year from now. (Not operationalizing it super well, just trying to do better than nothing.)
EDIT: Obviously there’s going to be some nuance, etc. This prediction is a public-facing result of a longer private dialogue I had with other parties.
I wanted to briefly note for now that LW moderators are tracking this thread. Some of us may end up writing more of our thoughts later.
I think it’s good for people to be sharing their experiences. I’m glad Turntrout and KurtB shared their stories. I’m glad So8res responded with his experience/context. I generally feel quite good about people sharing information like this.
I feel a bit wary of any specific recommendations necessarily helping – I think often situations like this are just actually pretty tricky/nuanced and involve a lot more significant tradeoffs than it may seem. (Still seems fine for people to write up their own wishes, or guesses about what would help, I just think it’s just useful to keep in mind that it may be more complicated that it seems at first glance)
I haven’t personally interacted with Nate much, but I’ve had some experiences similar to things Turntrout described with other people I respect. I might have some useful things to say about some of the patterns involved, thought it may take awhile to write up and might end up being a separate top-level post.
For my part, I predict (85%) that this sentiment will age at least somewhat poorly, looking back one year from now. (Not operationalizing it super well, just trying to do better than nothing.)
EDIT: Obviously there’s going to be some nuance, etc. This prediction is a public-facing result of a longer private dialogue I had with other parties.