How do you distinguish between entryism and other forms of in-group politicking? I thought “entryism” is when actors who don’t already have a stake in a group, seek to join the group and gain power in it, in order to “turn” it for their agenda (which is unrelated to the purpose of the group). But I read the OP as talking about existing members of the group pursuing an agenda that’s genuinely relevant to the purpose of the group.
Unsurprisingly, there may be a Sorites problem here—if you were already a casual member of the dancing club, and suddenly decide to become more involved because of your interest in Society-wide bathroom convention reform, that’s a lot like entryism even if it’s not the “pure” case.
Everyone I can think of who is pushing for the examples I gave in the post was a dancer before they started having that belief. Contra dance is far too niche for it to be worth anyone’s while to try to come in from outside as a non-dancer and change it to be more the way they want.
How do you distinguish between entryism and other forms of in-group politicking? I thought “entryism” is when actors who don’t already have a stake in a group, seek to join the group and gain power in it, in order to “turn” it for their agenda (which is unrelated to the purpose of the group). But I read the OP as talking about existing members of the group pursuing an agenda that’s genuinely relevant to the purpose of the group.
Unsurprisingly, there may be a Sorites problem here—if you were already a casual member of the dancing club, and suddenly decide to become more involved because of your interest in Society-wide bathroom convention reform, that’s a lot like entryism even if it’s not the “pure” case.
Yeah, it feels hard to distinguish “bringing in more interested members” from “bringing in more interested members that agree with you.”
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I wrote “If you had a vote you’d probably be in the minority”. To take this specific example, we publicly planned a vote, saw that this was overwhelmingly preferred, and decided to switch. But if we had had the vote five years earlier I think we probably would have had different results.
Everyone I can think of who is pushing for the examples I gave in the post was a dancer before they started having that belief. Contra dance is far too niche for it to be worth anyone’s while to try to come in from outside as a non-dancer and change it to be more the way they want.
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