the details of what the people-on-the-ground want/need and the realpolitik matter a bunch.
i guess this is what i’m trying to understand.
as a meta point, i get the impression that you think i’m being obtuse for rhetorical reasons. but i promise you: i’m just obtuse!
like, based on this comment, it seems like you think i’m going “today i will lump these two obviously different things together, he he he” (i guess because i want to lose some arguments on the internet :) ). but from my perspective, i can’t tell the difference! everyone’s telling me that there’s a clear distinction between labor unions and fishery contracts, but no one is telling me what that difference is. i’m confused!
as a meta point, i get the impression that you think i’m being obtuse for rhetorical reasons. but i promise you: i’m just obtuse!
Okay lol, fairnuff.
The thing I vaguely remember from the book’s early chapter was, a fishing town where they rotated slots you get in the lake each season. I can’t remember if that was a thing the town elders/government decided sort of from on-high, or that the fishermen negotiated together and organically turned into a norm, or what.
But, the point was “rotate slots in the lake” is a mechanism that is neither exactly private property, nor setting a limit on number-of-fish. This doesn’t have much to do with labor unions.
I believe there were 1-2 other mechanical details in that chapter but I don’t remember, that were similarly “oh, huh, I guess you could do it that way.”
(The implication here not being that AI safety unions should use rotating slots, which is nonsensical in this case – I was mostly replying narrowly to the “how do the proverbial fisherman avoid overfishing without limiting supply?”. With a bit of a broader implication for “mechanism-space is deep and wide and local-details-space is deep and wide”, which might or might not be relevant to the OP idk)
i guess this is what i’m trying to understand.
as a meta point, i get the impression that you think i’m being obtuse for rhetorical reasons. but i promise you: i’m just obtuse!
like, based on this comment, it seems like you think i’m going “today i will lump these two obviously different things together, he he he” (i guess because i want to lose some arguments on the internet :) ). but from my perspective, i can’t tell the difference! everyone’s telling me that there’s a clear distinction between labor unions and fishery contracts, but no one is telling me what that difference is. i’m confused!
Okay lol, fairnuff.
The thing I vaguely remember from the book’s early chapter was, a fishing town where they rotated slots you get in the lake each season. I can’t remember if that was a thing the town elders/government decided sort of from on-high, or that the fishermen negotiated together and organically turned into a norm, or what.
But, the point was “rotate slots in the lake” is a mechanism that is neither exactly private property, nor setting a limit on number-of-fish. This doesn’t have much to do with labor unions.
I believe there were 1-2 other mechanical details in that chapter but I don’t remember, that were similarly “oh, huh, I guess you could do it that way.”
(The implication here not being that AI safety unions should use rotating slots, which is nonsensical in this case – I was mostly replying narrowly to the “how do the proverbial fisherman avoid overfishing without limiting supply?”. With a bit of a broader implication for “mechanism-space is deep and wide and local-details-space is deep and wide”, which might or might not be relevant to the OP idk)