I too used to have a disorder that made me occasionally write nonsense. In my case it turned out to be fixable by reading a lot of LW, in particular Eliezer’s and Yvain’s posts, and then putting a lot of work into my own posts and comments to approach their level of clarity. It was hard at first, but after a while it became easier. Have you tried that?
Right now your writings look very stream-of-consciousness to me, like you don’t even write drafts. Given all the criticism you get, this is kind of unacceptable. Many LWers write drafts and send them to each other for critique before posting stuff publicly. I often do that even for discussion posts.
Right now your writings look very stream-of-consciousness to me, like you don’t even write drafts. This is kind of unacceptable. Many LWers write drafts and send them to each other for critique before posting stuff publicly. I often do that even for discussion posts.
Errr… wait. We do that? Ooops. Sometimes I proof-read and sometimes I make edits to my comments as soon as I post them. Does that count?
Yeah, some of us do. Your posts are pretty good as they are, but hey, now you know a way to make them even better! I volunteer to read drafts anytime :-)
I remember thinking it was ironic how in the Wikipedia article on learned helpnessness when they talk about the dogs the tone is like “oh, how sad, these dogs are so demoralized that they don’t even try to escape their own suffering”, but when it came to humans it was like “oh look, these humans seem to have a choice about whether or not they suffer but they’re acting as if they don’t have that choice so as to avoid blame and avoid putting forth effort to change their situation”; which if taken seriously sort of undermines the hypothesis about how the behavioral mechanisms are largely the same for both animals. But you could tell it was totally unconscious on the part of the writers, and if you’d tried to point it out to them they could just backpedal in various ways, and so there’d be no point in trying to point out the change in perspective, it’d just look like defensiveness. And going meta like this probably wouldn’t help either.
I keep bringing this up only to have it ignored completely, but: THAT IS NOT A PSYCHOLOGICALLY REALISTIC OPTION.
I too used to have a disorder that made me occasionally write nonsense. In my case it turned out to be fixable by reading a lot of LW, in particular Eliezer’s and Yvain’s posts, and then putting a lot of work into my own posts and comments to approach their level of clarity. It was hard at first, but after a while it became easier. Have you tried that?
Right now your writings look very stream-of-consciousness to me, like you don’t even write drafts. Given all the criticism you get, this is kind of unacceptable. Many LWers write drafts and send them to each other for critique before posting stuff publicly. I often do that even for discussion posts.
Errr… wait. We do that? Ooops. Sometimes I proof-read and sometimes I make edits to my comments as soon as I post them. Does that count?
Yeah, some of us do. Your posts are pretty good as they are, but hey, now you know a way to make them even better! I volunteer to read drafts anytime :-)
I remember thinking it was ironic how in the Wikipedia article on learned helpnessness when they talk about the dogs the tone is like “oh, how sad, these dogs are so demoralized that they don’t even try to escape their own suffering”, but when it came to humans it was like “oh look, these humans seem to have a choice about whether or not they suffer but they’re acting as if they don’t have that choice so as to avoid blame and avoid putting forth effort to change their situation”; which if taken seriously sort of undermines the hypothesis about how the behavioral mechanisms are largely the same for both animals. But you could tell it was totally unconscious on the part of the writers, and if you’d tried to point it out to them they could just backpedal in various ways, and so there’d be no point in trying to point out the change in perspective, it’d just look like defensiveness. And going meta like this probably wouldn’t help either.
This is the first time I see you say that, but fair enough. I can relate to that.
Why? Or did I accidentally stumble across a private forum with secrets?
Why? Or did I accidentally stumble across a private forum with secrets?